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Most rail robbery suspects are children, BTP data shows - August 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363918/30541/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:50, 6th August 2025
 
From the BBC:


The British Transport Police says its priority is to take "high harm, high impact offenders off the street"

Nearly two-thirds of suspects linked to robberies on Britain's rail networks are children, figures from the British Transport Police (BTP) show.

The data, published on Wednesday, shows that of the 1,680 reported robberies in the year to March, 848 were linked to named suspects, of whom 61% were aged under 18.

It also reveals that a small number of offenders were linked to many crimes, with the most common age of robbery victims and suspects being 16.

The BBC joined officers on overnight raids to detain four suspects aged 16-17 believed to be responsible for a combined 39 robberies. Police say the four all knew each other.

During the raids in London and Essex, police seized large blades from two of the suspects.

Robbery is a more serious offence than theft as it involves the use or threat of violence - with or without a weapon.

The BTP data covers incidents reported on the rail network in England, Wales and Scotland, and shows that almost a third of victims - 495 out of 1,547 - were also children. Of these, the most common age for child victims was 16. The youngest recorded victim was aged 10.

The BTP says the most commonly stolen items were mobile phones and watches. Sometimes expensive clothes were taken.

Some suspects were implicated in multiple robberies, with one child linked to 19 separate offences.

A suspect is "linked" to an offence on the police national database when they are identified by investigators as potentially being involved.

The BTP says the railway network is covered by lots of CCTV, which helps them track down suspected robbers.


More than 60 officers were deployed as part of Operation Flycatcher, led by Ch Insp Nick Brandon (pictured)

During Operation Flycatcher, the BBC witnessed officers execute search warrants on four addresses to detain some of these suspects.

The first raid took place at 02:46 in east London, where a 17-year-old suspect was arrested on suspicion of nine robbery offences. The team recovered a large samurai sword during a search of the property. At the same time, other teams raided two addresses in Essex. Another large blade was seized, and two teenagers were taken into custody.

We then travelled to the border between London and Essex, where at 04:00 officers had to breach the front door to take another youth away in handcuffs. Later, two other under-18s were arrested, suspected of a further 22 robberies. All have been bailed pending further enquiries.

Ch Insp Nick Brandon, who led the raids, told the BBC: "The message is quite simple: we will put the resources behind this, we will investigate this, we will identify you, we will come and arrest you, we'll search your home for all possible evidence and then we will seek to put you before the courts." He said it was "extremely distressing" for someone to be subjected to a robbery, "especially if they've been threatened by a weapon". But Ch Insp Brannon added that the number of robberies on Britain's railways equated to less an one per million journeys.


Re: Cumbrian Coast Line: tunnel woes at Whitehaven
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363917/30530/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:46, 6th August 2025
 
From the BBC:

Rail replacement bus disruption 'unacceptable'



Calls have been made to address "unacceptable" issues with a rail replacement service that has left passengers stranded.

Northern is running buses instead of trains between Workington and Sellafield in West Cumbria after a survey found issues with the tunnel floor at Corkickle. The buses cannot run through Braystones and Nethertown, Northern said, leaving the villages without a service and other passengers complaining about missing and delayed buses.

Josh MacAlister, Labour MP for Whitehaven and Workington, wrote to Northern asking it to address the issues quickly. A spokesperson for Northern and Network Rail apologised, saying: "We understand how frustrating this disruption is."

MacAlister's letter said: "I have had reports of some buses not turning up, others severely delayed, some not stopping at scheduled stations, leaving people stranded." He added some drivers were allowing dogs, while others were not, causing confusion for passengers. MacAlister said: "The confusion and disruption is unacceptable, especially as this is going to continue for most of the year."

Northern said it planned to run replacement buses between Sellafield and Workington until 10 August. From 11 August, the buses would run between the nuclear site and Whitehaven.

Northern and Network Rail said: "From Monday, trains will run to Whitehaven on the northern side of the tunnel, and we are looking at the options available to be able to run trains to Corkickle on the other side."

But MacAlister said he had been told by "experienced engineers" there was no reason for such a large railway closure and he wanted to see just the section between Whitehaven and Corkickle closed, with buses running between the stations.



He asked the rail firm to give its "urgent attention" to implementing changes so that buses are only needed for the shorter route, meaning Braystones and Nethertown would no longer be "isolated".

Network Rail carried out survey work last week, ahead of a planned three-week closure from 30 August to replace tracks and carry out drainage works. Part of the line had been affected by contaminated water flowing from abandoned mines through Bransty railway tunnel and discharging into the harbour at Whitehaven, causing the water to turn orange.

During the survey engineers discovered further repairs to the tunnel floor were needed. Network Rail said this would likely mean a delay to the planned work.


Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [363916/30206/44]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:34, 6th August 2025
 
As somebody put on Facebook…

“It's quite despicable that rail services in the South will have to use cast-offs from the North. Glad this never happens t'other way round!”

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363915/30540/30]
Posted by GBM at 12:02, 6th August 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, PhilWakely, Mark A
 
Spent half a day there last summer'ish.
Allegedly for 4 year old grandson (but mainly me).
Staff were wonderful, weather was good.
We really enjoyed it there, and lovely gardens to boot.

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363914/30540/30]
Posted by PhilWakely at 11:03, 6th August 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, GBM
 

Pecorama at Beer, East Devon.

Half price entry on Sat 13 Sept  icw it’s 50th Anniversary and also a special exhibition of working models of various stations on the Lynton & Barnstaple Railway.

Correct!  This is at the furthest extent of the 'north' loop where there are a couple of short lengths of track that appear to go nowhere!

Also, it is half price entry all of the 2025 Summer Season - not just on that one day.

I visited with my wife, daughter, son and granddaughter. Although we live not 20 miles from Beer, I hadn't visited the attraction since my son was the same age as his own daughter is now. The layout of the miniature railway is much changed in those intervening years!

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363913/30540/30]
Posted by PhilWakely at 10:58, 6th August 2025
 
Gartell light railway, Templecombe

Sadly, not.

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363912/30540/30]
Posted by chuffed at 10:39, 6th August 2025
 
Gartell light railway, Templecombe

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363911/30540/30]
Posted by AMLAG at 10:16, 6th August 2025
Already liked by GBM
 

Pecorama at Beer, East Devon.

Half price entry on Sat 13 Sept  icw it’s 50th Anniversary and also a special exhibition of working models of various stations on the Lynton & Barnstaple Railway.

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363910/30540/30]
Posted by PhilWakely at 09:52, 6th August 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Launceston Steam Railway?

Long time since I was there - I think it was called the Lappa Valley Railway back then

The Launceston Steam Railway and Lappa Valley are completely separate entities - but sadly neither depicted here.

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363908/30540/30]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:31, 6th August 2025
 
Launceston Steam Railway?

Long time since I was there - I think it was called the Lappa Valley Railway back then

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [363907/29650/26]
Posted by Electric train at 09:27, 6th August 2025
 
What is needed is some analytical boffin to gather all the failures reported here in these forums for the TV and trend them say over the last 4 years ie post COVID lockdowns

Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [363906/30540/30]
Posted by PhilWakely at 09:04, 6th August 2025
 
Almost certainly easier than grahame's recent 'Where was...'

I was out visiting the rellies...


Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [363905/30206/44]
Posted by broadgage at 08:58, 6th August 2025
 
These are loco hauled coaches replacing loco hauled coaches, not DMUs.

Yes, but the modern way is that new trains should be DMUs, and preferably be shorter than those being replaced. and without a buffet, of course.

Re: Charfield train station plans, drop in event.
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [363904/29792/34]
Posted by ChrisB at 08:56, 6th August 2025
 
Construction is due to begin in August 2025 and will be done in stages, including:

construction of the station, including footbridge and platforms
construction of the station forecourt
construction of the southern car park
improvements to Station Road including widening of carriageway and footpaths, and work to the rail access point
final works on Little Bristol Lane, including road surfacing
The new station is expected to open in spring 2027.

https://beta.southglos.gov.uk/charfield-train-station/

Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [363903/30206/44]
Posted by ChrisB at 08:53, 6th August 2025
 
13 Mk 5A sets are being taken on to replace 4 Mk3 sets, so that is a very moot point.

Re: Where am I? - 5th August 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [363899/30536/30]
Posted by grahame at 07:49, 6th August 2025
 
or possibly the artificial island on the Oresund bridge, Peberholm (if that counts?).


Denmark comprises the peninsular of Jutland, sticking out on map to the north of Germany, and around 1400 islands of which 70 are populated.  The most populous is Zealand, with a population of over 2 million.  Zealand is connected to Sweden to its east by the Oresund bridge / tunnel which starts as a tunnel and becomes a bridge on the artificial island of Peberholm.  And it is connected to the west to the island of Funen (Fyn in Danish) again on the railway again starting with a tunnel which becomes a brifge - this time on the Island of Sprogo where this picture was taken. In this case, the parallel road is on a bridge all the way  from Zealand to Funen - a suspension bridge over the shipping channel where the railway is in a tunnel, then both bridges run side by side at a much lower level to complete the crossing to Funen.

Peberholm is 130 hectares ... on the Oresund bridge / tunnel. It does count - the picture is actually Sprogo Island on the Great Belt where the railway comes out from a tunnel and carries on via a bridge, and it's 154 hectares.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprogø

P.S.  - Peberholm is totally artificial.  Sprogo was originally a much smaller natural island but has a big extension. 

Re: German experience - not quite as punctual as its old reputation would suggest
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363898/30313/52]
Posted by Noggin at 23:37, 5th August 2025
 
I would strongly recommend avoid using German rail replacement busses.

In my experience of the works around Offenburg last summer, rail replacement busses are a rare example of something something that the British are considerably better than the Germans at doing 

Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [363897/30206/44]
Posted by JayMac at 23:24, 5th August 2025
 
These are loco hauled coaches replacing loco hauled coaches, not DMUs.

Re: Charfield train station plans, drop in event.
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [363896/29792/34]
Posted by johnneyw at 23:17, 5th August 2025
 
Looks like it's an August construction commencement date according to the Stroud News and Journal.  Completion expected in the spring of 2026.  This will include improvements to the approach road, bus stop, cycle parking and car park.

Article link below.

https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/25366395.works-new-charfield-train-station-begin-august/

Re: Heathrow Airport - plans for expansion: ongoing discussion, merged posts
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363895/22971/5]
Posted by John D at 21:33, 5th August 2025
 
Seems Alaska Air is coming to Heathrow

https://news.alaskaair.com/destinations/alaska-airlines-continues-international-expansion-with-new-flights-to-london-and-reykjavik-from-seattle-with-a-first-look-at-our-new-global-experience/

Re: Where am I? - 5th August 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [363894/30536/30]
Posted by eightonedee at 21:20, 5th August 2025
 
or possibly the artificial island on the Oresund bridge, Peberholm (if that counts?).

Re: German experience - not quite as punctual as its old reputation would suggest
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363893/30313/52]
Posted by Surrey 455 at 21:02, 5th August 2025
 
A few months ago I posted a link to a story about Deutsche Bahn closing parts of the railway for months as part of their rebuilding programme. The latest closure is the Berlin to Hamburg route.

From DW. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-berlin-hamburg-deutsche-bahn-trains-canceled/a-73466333

Starting August 1, Deutsche Bahn's 280-kilometer (174-mile) route linking Berlin to Hamburg will be completely closed for at least nine months. With up to 30,000 passengers daily, it is the most heavily used direct connection in Germany's long-distance rail transport. Around 230 regional, long-distance and freight trains travel daily on the tracks between Germany's two largest cities.

Starting Friday, the intercity passenger trains will have to take a 100-kilometer detour, while freight trains will be rerouted even further. In addition, 170 buses will be deployed daily to continue connecting the towns between Berlin and Hamburg that will be cut off from rail service. Both the construction work and the replacement transport will be complex and potentially prone to disruption.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [363892/29726/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:57, 5th August 2025
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be terminated at Gloucester.

It will no longer call at Cheltenham Spa.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [363891/30206/44]
Posted by broadgage at 20:34, 5th August 2025
 
I presume that no buffet is to be offered, but at least loco hauled coaches are a step up from DMUs. The absence of underfloor engines is welcome.
And NOT IETS 
And if the route is ever electrified, the same coaches could be hauled by an electric loco.

Re: Why people are ripping flowers from local waterways - Nottinghamshire, 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363890/30535/51]
Posted by johnneyw at 19:10, 5th August 2025
 
I've read quite a lot about "Balsam Buster" groups being busy all over the country.  To  add to the solutions, I've also been reading about the introduction of a fungus rust specific only to Himalayan Balsam which looks to control rather than wipe out the plant giving native species the opportunity to compete.  Test results are apparently encouraging although it works better in some locations than others, the reasons for which are still being investigated.

Re: Trains not calling at Crewkerne from 28 July 2025
In "South Western services" [363889/30480/42]
Posted by eXPassenger at 19:06, 5th August 2025
 
This story has hit the Guardian and refers to the Waterloo / Exeter line and SW Trains:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/04/rail-services-england-cut-dry-embankments-disturb-track

Complete with a picture of a Cross Country train at Dawlish

 
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