| Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by grahame at 05:28, 19th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?
Manchester (for which Andy is famous) has a high population density (a.k.a. is largely urban). Would he be inclined to make a difference in urban areas such as Bristol, Plymouth and Exeter or would his influence across the UK spread to areas which are described as "rural" but which are in practice a series of urban townships where most people live, separated from one another by a handful of miles of countryside?
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by John D at 07:25, 19th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?
Manchester (for which Andy is famous) has a high population density (a.k.a. is largely urban). Would he be inclined to make a difference in urban areas such as Bristol, Plymouth and Exeter or would his influence across the UK spread to areas which are described as "rural" but which are in practice a series of urban townships where most people live, separated from one another by a handful of miles of countryside?
Manchester (for which Andy is famous) has a high population density (a.k.a. is largely urban). Would he be inclined to make a difference in urban areas such as Bristol, Plymouth and Exeter or would his influence across the UK spread to areas which are described as "rural" but which are in practice a series of urban townships where most people live, separated from one another by a handful of miles of countryside?
Difficult to know how he sees more rural Britain, he was born near Liverpool, grew up in Culcheth (a village north east across motorway from Warrington), attended school in Newton-le-Willows, went to Cambridge University. So most of his first 20 years was in smaller towns rather than busy urban areas.
But seems he understands the other metro mayors, so might be more sympathetic to Bristol, and apparently isn't a great fan of London centric policies. So I think it will be case of wait and see.
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:55, 20th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Someone seems to be looking forward to a new regime.......one would have thought however that the more honourable course of action for her to take if she's lost faith in the Leader who appointed her would be to resign herself, as others have?
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/26212426.swindons-heidi-alexander-first-tell-starmer-go/
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by ChrisB at 20:49, 21st June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I understad that Louise Haig is helping to run his campaign....far better transport secretary IMV
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by JayMac at 21:46, 21st June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Someone seems to be looking forward to a new regime.......one would have thought however that the more honourable course of action for her to take if she's lost faith in the Leader who appointed her would be to resign herself, as others have?
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/26212426.swindons-heidi-alexander-first-tell-starmer-go/
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/26212426.swindons-heidi-alexander-first-tell-starmer-go/
Surely its better to have some continuity in government departments during a leadership contest, rather than the modern tory way of mass resignations forcing out a stubborn incumbent. Although that might change if Sir Keir fights on. Which is looking unlikely judging by the 'off the record' statements filltering through media politcal correspondents.
The new leader can then decide on their top team.
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:12, 22nd June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Someone seems to be looking forward to a new regime.......one would have thought however that the more honourable course of action for her to take if she's lost faith in the Leader who appointed her would be to resign herself, as others have?
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/26212426.swindons-heidi-alexander-first-tell-starmer-go/
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/26212426.swindons-heidi-alexander-first-tell-starmer-go/
Surely its better to have some continuity in government departments during a leadership contest, rather than the modern tory way of mass resignations forcing out a stubborn incumbent. Although that might change if Sir Keir fights on. Which is looking unlikely judging by the 'off the record' statements filltering through media politcal correspondents.
The new leader can then decide on their top team.
I'm sure the Civil Service with help from Ministers of State can cope for a couple of weeks - although perhaps I am being naive in suggesting that modern politicians understand the concept of acting honourably.
Incidentally the "modern tory way" much criticised by Labour, was having "coronations" of new PMs without seeking legitimacy via a General Election.................that (very recent) position/criticism seems to have been conveniently forgotten this time around!

| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:46, 22nd June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?.....
No.
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:48, 22nd June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?.....
No.
Looks like we're going to find out quite soon!
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:39, 22nd June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
We've now found out.

Andy Burnham, ex-Mayor of Greater Manchester, now back in Parliament as MP for Makerfield and apparently soon to be our new Prime Minister, has some previous for
See https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=25181.msg373441#msg373441
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by Sixty3Closure at 17:01, 24th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As Mayor he was quite into devolution for the English regions. Moving funding and policy away from the centre which would probably be good for some areas. I suspect though once he's in power that will all be quietly forgotten as it means given up control.
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by REVUpminster at 15:09, 25th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Andy Burnham's coup, if he succeeds, isn't without precedent. When labour came to power in London in May 1981 there was an overnight coup and Ken Livingston became mayor. It herald more than 30 years of transport policy when successive mayors, tory and labour, gave pensioners more and more to become the envy of everyone else. In Torbay it is still Buses only from 0930hrs Mon-Fri.
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by grahame at 15:42, 25th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
.... In Torbay it is still Buses only from 0930hrs Mon-Fri.
And any time Saturdays and Sundays?
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by REVUpminster at 19:12, 25th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
.... In Torbay it is still Buses only from 0930hrs Mon-Fri.
And any time Saturdays and Sundays?
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by Electric train at 20:46, 25th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
.... In Torbay it is still Buses only from 0930hrs Mon-Fri.
And any time Saturdays and Sundays?
In the Royal Borough of Windsor & Maidenhead senior / mobility impaired citizen buss passed can be used at anytime on bus services that are deemed "Borough Bus" another bus services and busses elsewhere in the country are off peak
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:18, 25th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
An update, from the BBC:
Andy Burnham could be leader in weeks under Labour timetable
Labour's ruling body has set out the timetable for electing a new party leader which could see Sir Keir Starmer's replacement installed as early as 17 July.
The schedule means Andy Burnham could take over as prime minister from Sir Keir in less than a month, if he continues to be the only MP to enter the race.
Potential candidates have from 9 July to 15 July to collect the backing of 81 MPs and until 16 July to gather the required number of nominations from affiliated bodies such as trade unions, in order to stay in the contest.
If only one candidate meets that threshold, the new leader will be announced at a special Labour conference on 17 July, before being appointed PM by the King.
If more than one MP is able to garner enough support to progress to the next stage, a ballot of Labour party members and affiliated supporters would take place between 6 and 27 August.
Under that scenario, the final result would be announced on 29 August.
(BBC article continues)
Labour's ruling body has set out the timetable for electing a new party leader which could see Sir Keir Starmer's replacement installed as early as 17 July.
The schedule means Andy Burnham could take over as prime minister from Sir Keir in less than a month, if he continues to be the only MP to enter the race.
Potential candidates have from 9 July to 15 July to collect the backing of 81 MPs and until 16 July to gather the required number of nominations from affiliated bodies such as trade unions, in order to stay in the contest.
If only one candidate meets that threshold, the new leader will be announced at a special Labour conference on 17 July, before being appointed PM by the King.
If more than one MP is able to garner enough support to progress to the next stage, a ballot of Labour party members and affiliated supporters would take place between 6 and 27 August.
Under that scenario, the final result would be announced on 29 August.
(BBC article continues)
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:18, 28th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
An update, from the BBC:
Senior Labour figures say party is united behind Andy Burnham
The Labour Party is united behind Andy Burnham as its next leader, two senior party figures have told the BBC.
The party set out a timeline for a leadership contest following Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer's resignation earlier this week, but there is scant evidence of support for any contenders other than Burnham.
Former defence minister Al Carns has said a speech on Monday, in which Burnham will set out his economic policy, will decide whether he challenges him for the Labour leadership.
Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell and Housing Secretary Steve Reed, who had stayed loyal to Sir Keir, both said that Labour MPs were backing a coronation of Burnham, rather than a contest.
Powell, the MP for Manchester Central, said that further devolution of powers to local areas would be a priority for Burnham's administration if he won the Labour leadership race. "He's got a really strong agenda about changing that," she said, adding that it was "something that, actually, was in our manifesto but we've really not realised in the scale and speed in which we should have. If we had more control over things like skills and local transportation we could better connect people to all those new job opportunities of the future."
Burnham is expected to give a closely watched speech in Manchester on Monday to outline his economic vision for the country, which will have a strong emphasis on devolution to drive growth and which could be key to winning over potential challengers such as Carns.
On Sunday, Badenoch said Burnham should set out his plans to Parliament in special one-day session before the summer recess, rather than in a speech to supporters on Monday as expected, if he becomes prime minister. She said: "Andy Burnham is days away from taking charge of the country and still has not told people the basics: Will he stick to the Labour manifesto? Will he borrow even more money? Will he fund the Defence Investment Plan so that our country is not at risk?"
She accused Sir Keir of entering No 10 without a plan, and said the country must not be forced to wait until Parliament returns in September to know the plan for the country. Badenoch added: "A speech full of warm words to a friendly crowd is not a substitute for speaking at the despatch box where MPs can question the substance of what he has said. "
A Labour party spokesperson responded by saying: "Labour's ruling body, the National Executive Committee, has set out a clear timetable for the election of the next Leader of the Labour Party. While that process is ongoing, the Labour Government is getting on with the job of delivering the change the country voted for and tackling the cost of living. MPs are able to scrutinise the government in the normal way, as the public would expect."
The Labour Party is united behind Andy Burnham as its next leader, two senior party figures have told the BBC.
The party set out a timeline for a leadership contest following Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer's resignation earlier this week, but there is scant evidence of support for any contenders other than Burnham.
Former defence minister Al Carns has said a speech on Monday, in which Burnham will set out his economic policy, will decide whether he challenges him for the Labour leadership.
Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell and Housing Secretary Steve Reed, who had stayed loyal to Sir Keir, both said that Labour MPs were backing a coronation of Burnham, rather than a contest.
Powell, the MP for Manchester Central, said that further devolution of powers to local areas would be a priority for Burnham's administration if he won the Labour leadership race. "He's got a really strong agenda about changing that," she said, adding that it was "something that, actually, was in our manifesto but we've really not realised in the scale and speed in which we should have. If we had more control over things like skills and local transportation we could better connect people to all those new job opportunities of the future."
Burnham is expected to give a closely watched speech in Manchester on Monday to outline his economic vision for the country, which will have a strong emphasis on devolution to drive growth and which could be key to winning over potential challengers such as Carns.
On Sunday, Badenoch said Burnham should set out his plans to Parliament in special one-day session before the summer recess, rather than in a speech to supporters on Monday as expected, if he becomes prime minister. She said: "Andy Burnham is days away from taking charge of the country and still has not told people the basics: Will he stick to the Labour manifesto? Will he borrow even more money? Will he fund the Defence Investment Plan so that our country is not at risk?"
She accused Sir Keir of entering No 10 without a plan, and said the country must not be forced to wait until Parliament returns in September to know the plan for the country. Badenoch added: "A speech full of warm words to a friendly crowd is not a substitute for speaking at the despatch box where MPs can question the substance of what he has said. "
A Labour party spokesperson responded by saying: "Labour's ruling body, the National Executive Committee, has set out a clear timetable for the election of the next Leader of the Labour Party. While that process is ongoing, the Labour Government is getting on with the job of delivering the change the country voted for and tackling the cost of living. MPs are able to scrutinise the government in the normal way, as the public would expect."
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:23, 30th June 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Andy Burnham plans to work some days in Manchester as PM
Andy Burnham plans to spend some of his working week in Manchester if he becomes prime minister, the BBC has been told.
It is not clear whether he will spend a set number of days there, or whether there will be a more informal arrangement. But he plans to split his time between Downing Street and the North West, it is understood.
In his first speech since launching his Labour leadership bid, Burnham announced on Monday he would create a new "No 10 North" unit in Manchester if he replaces outgoing PM Sir Keir Starmer.
Burnham's allies hope his presence in the city would be a strong symbol of his commitment to devolve power away from Westminster.
The former mayor of Greater Manchester announced his intention to stand to replace Sir Keir last Monday, shortly after being elected as the MP for Makerfield.
So far, he is the only Labour MP to announce a leadership bid. If he remains the sole candidate, he could become the next prime minister as early as 20 July.
Past prime ministers, including Sir Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, have spent some time away from London in their constituencies, but those around Burnham say his arrangements would be different to the norm.
If Burnham chose to not to make Downing Street his main home, he would become the first prime minister since Labour premier Harold Wilson not to reside primarily in the famous London building.
Wilson lived in No 10 during his first term in office between 1964 and 1970, but opted to live at Lord North Street, a short walk from Parliament, during his second premiership between 1974 and 1976.
(BBC article continues)
Andy Burnham plans to spend some of his working week in Manchester if he becomes prime minister, the BBC has been told.
It is not clear whether he will spend a set number of days there, or whether there will be a more informal arrangement. But he plans to split his time between Downing Street and the North West, it is understood.
In his first speech since launching his Labour leadership bid, Burnham announced on Monday he would create a new "No 10 North" unit in Manchester if he replaces outgoing PM Sir Keir Starmer.
Burnham's allies hope his presence in the city would be a strong symbol of his commitment to devolve power away from Westminster.
The former mayor of Greater Manchester announced his intention to stand to replace Sir Keir last Monday, shortly after being elected as the MP for Makerfield.
So far, he is the only Labour MP to announce a leadership bid. If he remains the sole candidate, he could become the next prime minister as early as 20 July.
Past prime ministers, including Sir Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, have spent some time away from London in their constituencies, but those around Burnham say his arrangements would be different to the norm.
If Burnham chose to not to make Downing Street his main home, he would become the first prime minister since Labour premier Harold Wilson not to reside primarily in the famous London building.
Wilson lived in No 10 during his first term in office between 1964 and 1970, but opted to live at Lord North Street, a short walk from Parliament, during his second premiership between 1974 and 1976.
(BBC article continues)
Fair enough: Andy Burnham 'working from home' would limit his reliance on train services between Manchester and London - just for example.

| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by John D at 07:32, 1st July 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Fair enough: Andy Burnham 'working from home' would limit his reliance on train services between Manchester and London - just for example.
Andy Burnham plans to work some days in Manchester as PM
Andy Burnham plans to spend some of his working week in Manchester if he becomes prime minister, the BBC has been told.
It is not clear whether he will spend a set number of days there, or whether there will be a more informal arrangement. But he plans to split his time between Downing Street and the North West, it is understood.
In his first speech since launching his Labour leadership bid, Burnham announced on Monday he would create a new "No 10 North" unit in Manchester if he replaces outgoing PM Sir Keir Starmer.
(BBC article continues)
Andy Burnham plans to spend some of his working week in Manchester if he becomes prime minister, the BBC has been told.
It is not clear whether he will spend a set number of days there, or whether there will be a more informal arrangement. But he plans to split his time between Downing Street and the North West, it is understood.
In his first speech since launching his Labour leadership bid, Burnham announced on Monday he would create a new "No 10 North" unit in Manchester if he replaces outgoing PM Sir Keir Starmer.
(BBC article continues)
Fair enough: Andy Burnham 'working from home' would limit his reliance on train services between Manchester and London - just for example.

I think he lives near Golborne, don't know exact part, but his local stations would be Bryn or Newton-le-Willows
Golborne gets a new station in 18 months time (currently under construction). It formerly had two stations, South on LNWR and North on Great Central (ex Liverpool, St Helens and South Lancashire Railway)
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation Posted by ChrisB at 09:58, 1st July 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
He'll have problems making urgent statements in the House then.














