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First Class or Standard Class - Interrail pass thoughts In "Fare's Fair" [361871/30312/4] Posted by grahame at 19:55, 31st May 2025 Already liked by PrestburyRoad | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Berlin was hot and sticky even by midmorning. I have walked around the centre of the city in the past, and took a decision (as my unlimited train travel is all paid for ahead of time) to pop out to Potsdam, where the river had looked interesting when I passed though on yesterday's little jaunt. Slightly unfortunate, it seems that very many Berliners also had the idea of popping out to Potsdam too and the train was rammed.
My pass/ticket is first class and that let me escape within the train to a high eyrie (the trains are double deck, First class upstairs) but not before some gentleman who I'm sure was being kind informed me that all the seats were taken up there too, and wouldn't budge off the stairs. I *am* still able to stand for a short while, and I got past him and up to the nest where us toffee-nosed folks go - amongst the posh ... some of whom take a look at this scruffy traveller and can't wait for the ticket inspector to come round. Only then to learn he is called "sir" because he has spent a lot more on his ticket than most fellow travellers.
The First Class eyrie exists on many local and regional trains here in Germany. sometimes as small as a single seating bay and even at that size markedly less crowded than the rest of the train. On a normal journey regional journey, I prefer to sit with everyone else - observe, listen, and sometimes chat. Long distance, the first class gives us wider, more comfortable seats and sometimes extra luggage space and the extra was worth us paying for - the price difference on Interrail is not huge. Occasionally there's an extra perk in some countries like a complementary (not really - we paid for it as part of the package) cup of coffee.
Posters on various Interrail groups - newcomers to Interrail - often pose the question "should I spend the extra on a first class pass?". It's an excellent question and one that only they can answer based on their personal review of the evidence people who have gone before them can provide. The above is written to help inform; our own personal choice is based on past experience
Potsdam was a delight of water frontage, historic buildings, walkways, and an example of how to "do" a station approach too. Train back another zoo below the eyrie - with the train manager having trouble getting the doors to close because it was so rammed.
Now - do I post pictures of crowds, or of Potsdam?

Both ...













Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361870/19893/51] Posted by Surrey 455 at 19:51, 31st May 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Jodie Johnston, a driving instructor in Exeter, likens booking a test to the infamous annual scramble to buy tickets for Glastonbury Festival - and says some learners in London, where demand can be even higher, are travelling 200 miles to take their tests in Devon. "It's easier to pass a test than book a test at the moment," adds Ali Slade, a driving instructor in Farnham.
My niece in Surrey found it quicker to get a test in Portsmouth. Apparently a few of her school friends have done the same.
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [361869/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 16:34, 31st May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Saturday May 31
20:20 Hereford to London Paddington due 23:38 will be terminated at Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/05/2025 15:40
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/05/2025 15:40
Re: 25th May 2025 - SWR Franchise expires and services Nationalised In "South Western services" [361868/29993/42] Posted by ChrisB at 11:32, 31st May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
GBR doesn't actually exist yet, so there won't have been anyone from GBR present
Re: New station at Ashley Down, Bristol In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [361866/24045/21] Posted by johnneyw at 10:13, 31st May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There's a local Bristol Beeb news article about an artist being sought to provide a mural at Ashley Down station to make it "more welcoming". Personally I think that Ashley Down is okay as it is with other stations probably more in need of the four grand that seems to have been made available for the project.
Here's the link to the article in full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e6jq9yxp1o.amp
Here's the link to the article in full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e6jq9yxp1o.amp
A matter of opinion, I suppose, but I rather like the muriel at Stapleton Road (if it's still there). Why not here?
Yes, a muriel (you've got me at it now!) can be an enhancement but Ashley Down is still relatively new and fresh looking while other local stations appear distinctly more tired and so would benefit more greatly, I would argue, from a spot of refreshment.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361865/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 10:08, 31st May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
And six hours later ... the almost inevitable cancellation of the train in the return direction
13:13 Swindon to Westbury due 13:55
13:13 Swindon to Westbury due 13:55 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/05/2025 09:39
13:13 Swindon to Westbury due 13:55 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/05/2025 09:39
Seven trains - 3 diesel, 3 electric, 1 steam in a round trip yesterday. My destination was The Harz on a round trip; Lisa spent a non-travel day in our current base.
This update illustrated by the seven trains and the big "gain" for me was th experience of how everything connects and comes together - how they do it here in Germany. Mostly they get it right, though it's not really the 100% everything-works as per reputation. We got back to Berlin about 25 minutes late - but then that was along a line undergoing engineering works on one of the two tracks which in another scenario / country might have resulted in complete line closure with long diversions or bus replacements.
On most of the trains, announcements about where to change, and what platform to go to as we approached each station. Where the train did not have facilities to do that, or when the ticket checker knew my German is very limited, advise helpfully offered to make sure the customer was AOK in virtually every case. Such advise and support IS commonly offered by train crew in the UK, but our mix of on-train and barrier checks means that train crew are mush less likely to be seen, and I have found the metrics of interaction with gate staff to be more of a policing-control nature than a customer-assist nature.







ITV West to celebrate 70 years of ITV,
had an item on the West Somerset railway from 1978 on the local news at 6pm on Friday 30 May 2025,enjoyable.
travel show on BBC news featured Paris metro In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361862/30310/52] Posted by infoman at 06:09, 31st May 2025 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Saturday morning May 31st at 05:30am very interesting and lots of new things I did not know about the Paris Metro.
Available on catch up.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361861/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 05:48, 31st May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... . I guess it works on paper. ...
I guess it does. Problem is ... railways don't run on paper ... they run on people, and engineering, and trains and rails, all of which have less continuous availability than a sheet of paper which remains a miracle that can be written on and still read years later.
Re: 25th May 2025 - SWR Franchise expires and services Nationalised In "South Western services" [361860/29993/42] Posted by grahame at 05:20, 31st May 2025 Already liked by GBM | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think most of us know the biggest issue is the leasing of the trains, will the separate company's be allowed to buy there own sets?
The RoSCos will no longer (in theory) have a free market in which they can lease their assets to the highest bidder but will rather have a single major customer - HMG, with open access minnows taking a little. In practise, who-leases-what has been specified by HMG anyway with the move from franchises to operational contracts.
A very few trains have (already) been TOC / TOC Parent owned - thinking of the five HSTs that First purchased at one point. And I would envisage future train purchases might by by HMG and managed by RoSCos. Can anyone help with an answer here? Of course, you could also nationalise the train building and heavy maintenance business too and call it (Great) British Rail Engineering, couldn't you?
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361859/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 05:08, 31st May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
The change only happened last weekend!
So as of last night it was 50% of the days since the change that the peak evening train was declared cancelled then re-instated. Unclever - very unclever.
Time flies - it's been two weeks not one, hasn't it, ChrisB? And I fell for that without doing a fact check ... I have not looked back at the first week after the changes; that record commented on is for the second week as they should be bedding in.
Re: 25th May 2025 - SWR Franchise expires and services Nationalised In "South Western services" [361858/29993/42] Posted by infoman at 05:01, 31st May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For any one who may I have been at the launch,was any one from GBR actually there,or was Heidi Alexander the face of GBR?
I think most of us know the biggest issue is the leasing of the trains,
will the separate company's be allowed to buy there own sets?
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361857/29726/18] Posted by Wizard at 21:58, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I understand that Gloucester drivers have had Melksham work removed with the change of timetable. Along with Bristol drivers losing Weymouth, it would appear Westbury depot are too thin to cover all the gaps.
There are ... times ... I wish I had provided an "amazed" button answer as well as a "like" button. If you have understood correctly (and I have no reason to doubt it) it looks to be rather backward step in terms of providing a reliable service, doesn't it?
Has the new timetable change sorted out the lunchtime problem where a crew arriving off the semi-fast London to Exeter service do a round trip to Swindon ... notorious for being cancelled, turned at Chippenham or delayed if anything goes wrong (does it ever?) between London and Reading, delaying the Exeter.
Almost all depots have lost routes with the May timetable. I guess it works on paper. Believe Oxford are the odd ones out who’ve actually gained a new route.
Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361856/19893/51] Posted by TonyK at 21:07, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm not sure I could cope with sitting in the car with mainly teenagers all day and trusting their driving.
You'll soon be sitting in the train with teenagers driving, apparently.

I've been on more than one airliner flown by a teenager, including one where the commanding pilot told us (after a perfect landing at Bristol) that this had been the young man's first time flying the entire journey from engine start to engine stop at the other end.
Re: New station at Ashley Down, Bristol In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [361855/24045/21] Posted by TonyK at 20:56, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There's a local Bristol Beeb news article about an artist being sought to provide a mural at Ashley Down station to make it "more welcoming". Personally I think that Ashley Down is okay as it is with other stations probably more in need of the four grand that seems to have been made available for the project.
Here's the link to the article in full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e6jq9yxp1o.amp
Here's the link to the article in full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e6jq9yxp1o.amp
A matter of opinion, I suppose, but I rather like the muriel at Stapleton Road (if it's still there). Why not here?
Re: Go-Op Cooperative - proposals for additional rail services In "TransWilts line" [361854/11010/18] Posted by TonyK at 20:52, 30th May 2025 Already liked by TaplowGreen, rogerw | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There's an article in today's Sunday Times "Home" supplement, "Just the ticket or a curse for locals", quoting the promoter as saying they're now targeting high-net-worth individuals and rail industry bodies, promising high returns and economic prosperity". The reporter observes that "the line between Frome, Bruton and Castle Cary could become one of the poshest commuter routes in England". The plan is to buy 50-year-old rolling stock.
I incline towards pessimism about the viability of the proposal. I'm reminded of the bid, what, 20 years ago, by an individual to run a couple of extra trains (using "old" carriages) a day from Pewsey into Paddington and a couple more on return journeys. One cynical observation was that during delays the existing operator might give route preferences to its own trains.
I incline towards pessimism about the viability of the proposal. I'm reminded of the bid, what, 20 years ago, by an individual to run a couple of extra trains (using "old" carriages) a day from Pewsey into Paddington and a couple more on return journeys. One cynical observation was that during delays the existing operator might give route preferences to its own trains.
I read the article with keen interest until I got where it first mentioned Go-op. Then I gave up.
Regarding the Jacobite 'Harry Potter' train that runs between Fort William and Mallaig, crossing the Glenfinnan viaduct (as seen in the films)...
As an avid railway photographer, I would gladly phot a steam excursion from lineside, but as a participant of a railtour, it really does not matter what the motive power is.
Fortunately there are enough people who do think it's worth paying to travel behind steam or there'd be no steam to photograph! Ideally the trip should be enhanced by a welcoming boarding experience (a chance for a leisurely inspection of the haulage, including in this case during the mid-point attachment perhaps?) as well as that onboard experience and being made to feel appreciated for keeping the show on the (iron) road.
We included this recently in a 60th birthday trip. The trip was over 12 days, and we were very lucky in that it coincided with 2 weeks of fantastic weather - the guide on our 3 day tour of the Outer Hebrides said that it was the first time in 13 years that it hadn't rained once during the tour.
However, it also meant that they didn't run the steam train on the Jacobite due to the risk of setting fire to the surrounding very dry countryside - we didn't find that out until we got to the station. Plus we'd also been warned beforehand that the usual posh carriages were undergoing some sort of maintenance I think, so we ended up in just what seemed like old (1950s?) and somewhat tired rolling stock.
Given that we'd paid £105 each (1st class), plus £30 each for the 'high tea' (in a box), it was a bit disappointing, although we still enjoyed it - the glorious weather did mean that the scenery looked fantastic.
I suspect the passengers probably weren't the only ones disappointed - the hillsides at both ends of the viaduct were covered in people either taking photos or just watching, presumably hoping for a bit of steam rather than fumes

https://westcoastrailways.co.uk/jacobite/steam-train-trip
https://www.newvalleynews.co.uk/news/outstanding-member-of-the-community-dies-after-being-hit-by-a-train-inquest-report/
This was such a tragic death which could have been avoided.
Network Rail urgently need to fix the bridge AND improve safety at the rail crossing which has no warning lights or sirens despite having very limited visibility.
I often use this crossing and express trains from Paddington come hurtling round the corner at 100mph. Once you see a train you have only three seconds to cross over. Trains should sound their horn on approach to the crossing, but they don't always do so.
This was such a tragic death which could have been avoided.
Network Rail urgently need to fix the bridge AND improve safety at the rail crossing which has no warning lights or sirens despite having very limited visibility.
I often use this crossing and express trains from Paddington come hurtling round the corner at 100mph. Once you see a train you have only three seconds to cross over. Trains should sound their horn on approach to the crossing, but they don't always do so.
A few updates I've noticed at this location in recent days:
1) Work is now progressing to get the bridge replaced
2) Trains are now sounding their horn more often, using both tones instead of one
3) A 40mph TSR/ESR is now in place for trains in the down direction, ending just after the crossing
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361851/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 15:01, 30th May 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The change only happened last weekend!
So as of last night it was 50% of the days since the change that the peak evening train was declared cancelled then re-instated. Unclever - very unclever.
Let's hope that THIS crew shortage issue (or the way of reporting it in a way that scares the customers away) is shortlived - teething troubles. Sadly, I am not holding my breath as prior experience of staff shortages is that they go on. And on. And on.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361850/29726/18] Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:33, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be started from Swindon.
It will no longer call at Westbury, Trowbridge, Melksham and Chippenham.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361849/29726/18] Posted by RA at 12:48, 30th May 2025 Already liked by grahame | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I understand that Gloucester drivers have had Melksham work removed with the change of timetable. Along with Bristol drivers losing Weymouth, it would appear Westbury depot are too thin to cover all the gaps.
There are ... times ... I wish I had provided an "amazed" button answer as well as a "like" button. If you have understood correctly (and I have no reason to doubt it) it looks to be rather backward step in terms of providing a reliable service, doesn't it?
Has the new timetable change sorted out the lunchtime problem where a crew arriving off the semi-fast London to Exeter service do a round trip to Swindon ... notorious for being cancelled, turned at Chippenham or delayed if anything goes wrong (does it ever?) between London and Reading, delaying the Exeter.
The lunchtime train is still booked with an Exeter guard who arrives on the London to Exeter service. The 1623 Westbury to Swindon and 1735 Swindon to Westbury services are now booked to have a driver who travels up from Exeter! I think Westbury have covered it (when possible) every time it has run since the timetable change though.

The evening 1750 Gloucester to Salisbury service is now booked from Swindon for a driver from Reading depot who is then booked to bring back the 2006 Westbury to Cheltenham service as far as Swindon.
There's an article in this month's Rail magazine with some of the people working on Project Brunel (the project tasked with improving the performance of the infrastructure between Reading and Paddington). Fairly interesting read.
My main recollections: undergrowth was cut back that was tripping the OLE, too many/heavy trains using it (broken rails), pigeons nesting in bridges culled particularly at Ealing Broadway as they were tripping the OLE when a train passed, 777 axle counters replaced that still get loose, but are monitored/tightened before they fail again, addressing wet bed issues to do with drainage being covered over when track was realigned.
This may not have been the sentiment intended or I misread it: the team want to maintain the current level of progress without slipping back (!).
BBC 'Train drivers have best office in the world' - driver based in Westbury In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [361847/30309/49] Posted by matth1j at 09:03, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2qgdlegq4o
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361846/29726/18] Posted by ChrisB at 08:50, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The change only happened last weekend!
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [361845/29726/18] Posted by Timmer at 08:44, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I understand that Gloucester drivers have had Melksham work removed with the change of timetable. Along with Bristol drivers losing Weymouth, it would appear Westbury depot are too thin to cover all the gaps.
Explains why Weymouth trains often end up terminating at Westbury in both directions if Bristol drivers no longer sign the route down to Weymouth. Might be good for operators but not good for passengers.Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [361844/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 08:18, 30th May 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Friday May 30
08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:25.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:30/05/2025 05:59
Not a good week for this to be short-formed : it's half-term and this is the first train for cheap off-peak tickets.Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:30/05/2025 05:59
I was on it on Wednesday, when it was a 9-car set; we had the "move any bags off the seats - people are standing" announcement before Oxford.
17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:25 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:30/05/2025 07:13
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:30/05/2025 07:13
Later:
20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:13 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:30/05/2025 08:09
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:30/05/2025 08:09
12:30 : Train crew found for the Paddington - Oxford leg of the 17:34.
Re: Is playing music on public transport "Chipping away at Society"? In "Fare's Fair" [361843/30308/4] Posted by grahame at 08:18, 30th May 2025 Already liked by broadgage | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think you know full well that Jenrick is referring mainly to ....
You have me - I know what I think he meant. As his words were reported it suggested he was looking to throw out the baby with the bathwater ...
Personal annoyance - too many announcements in the quiet carriage, including those telling us to keep quiet in that carriage - "do as I say, not as I do ..."
Re: Is playing music on public transport "Chipping away at Society"? In "Fare's Fair" [361842/30308/4] Posted by bobm at 07:51, 30th May 2025 Already liked by Timmer | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It is covered in paragraph 7 of the Railway Byelaws
7. Music, sound, advertising and carrying on a trade
except with written permission from an operator no person on the railway shall, to the annoyance of any person:
sing or
use any instrument, article or equipment for the production or reproduction of sound
except with written permission from an operator no person on the railway shall, to the annoyance of any person:
sing or
use any instrument, article or equipment for the production or reproduction of sound
Don’t start me on mobile phone calls. Increasingly you get people holding their phone flat, on loudspeaker and talking into the bottom of it as though they are on the Apprentice!