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22.5.2025 (Thursday) 20:35 - All running AOK
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Re: "The Inspiration Train"
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361652/30289/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:35, 22nd May 2025
 
Many more places to follow those currently available, so be patient.

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361651/30273/30]
Posted by JayMac at 18:27, 22nd May 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder, Mark A
 
Didn't you ask Finn?

Is there doggie sign language for the hard of canine hearing?

He has the basics. Raised index finger means sit. Pointing downward means lay down. Outstretched hand palm up means "paw". Hand held above head followed by a downward point means recall.

He obviously has to be looking at me for these to work. We haven't got as far as signing, "Why is this crossing called '5/13 Taunton', Finn?"

Re: Broadgage unwell.
In "Introductions and chat" [361650/26962/1]
Posted by JayMac at 18:20, 22nd May 2025
 
I thought it was a twisty part of a motor racing circuit.

Train hits tractor and trailer on level crossing 22/05/2025.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361649/30290/51]
Posted by broadgage at 17:25, 22nd May 2025
 
Several persons injured, though reported to be not life threatening.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly3885e58no

Re: Broadgage unwell.
In "Introductions and chat" [361648/26962/1]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:50, 22nd May 2025
 
Coo. I thought it was a red food colouring, got by squishing beetles… Glad it seems to be working!

Re: Broadgage unwell.
In "Introductions and chat" [361646/26962/1]
Posted by broadgage at 14:49, 22nd May 2025
 
Long term update.
Tests and investigations continue, and as a result I was prescribed a new (to me) drug. Colchicine.
https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/colchicine/about-colchicine/#:~:text=Colchicine%20is%20a%20medicine%20for,also%20helps%20to%20reduce%20pain.

This medicine seems effective.

Re: "The Inspiration Train"
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361645/30289/51]
Posted by grahame at 14:15, 22nd May 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Andy E, Western Pathfinder
 
Travelling exhibition. Presumably, many destinations to be added to the schedule. (This is another reason why a terminus needs multiple platforms, it'll be disappointing if the Inspiration Train doesn't rock up at Newquay.)

It seems to miss out the current GWR territory completely ... Moor Street and Severn Valley Railway are sorta-close.    Wouldn't it be nice if they laid a platform for it to visit at Westbury, where people can visit from 6 different directions, then leave the siding as a legacy to be used to ease congestion at the station and improve services for years to come.

Re: Interrail, summer 2025 - daily diary thread of our travels
In "Introductions and chat" [361644/30276/1]
Posted by grahame at 11:45, 22nd May 2025
Already liked by eightonedee, PrestburyRoad, RichardB
 
We are now on the ferry from Kiel to Klaipeda ...

Greetings from The Baltic. Yesterday by train from Warnamunde to Kiel Hbf, courtesy DB, on regional trains, with changes in Rostock and Hamburg Hbf.  The Interrail Planner gave us alternatives via Lubeck and I would have been tempted if alone, but we had plenty of time, and Henry with us, and a leisurely lunch in Hamburg was order of the day - the food court and shops there make stations in our home are like Bristol and Cardiff look sad, limited and untilitarian.  In Kiel, a taxi to the DFDS terminal (yes, an x60 bus would have got us a few hundred metres from that target) and a checkin, bus-to-ship and we were away late evening on the 20 hour crossing to Klaipeda.

I am very used to being a foot passenger on ferries; the "Victoria Seaway" is an older ship that has been refitted and is hopping up the 750kms to Lithuania.  These ferry crossings often carry school / college groups and this one is no exception - well enough behave teenagers but learning the ways of the world like how a buffet counter works and how to think for themselves and other.  I get the feeling that for many of them it's their first release from helicopter parents.  A delight rather than anything else to have them along, even if their enthusiasm leaves us as the back of the queue for the one lift on the vessel.

Our pass doesn't cover DFDS - but then for Lisa's 15 days in 2 months it's not a day marked off either. And she's already talking about taking a second trip within the three months if we save enough days up - minor issues like inbound and outbound days (but we may come back in via Portsmouth and local tickets from there) and major ones like dog-sitting. 

Our German experience of train staff with "Henry" - utterly helpful. In places the lifts are limited, and the regional trains with flatter access really helpful.  Lisa can manage a few stairs and a short walk - great for getting up to the upper deck and first class area on the double decker trains; standard class tends to be pretty busy (good for DB) with more local traffic - first a bit less dense, but yet largely lacking the characters who stop and chat.

Pictures - people-watching (largely) from the last couple of days














Re: Station lighting hours
In "Across the West" [361642/30281/26]
Posted by Electric train at 05:54, 22nd May 2025
 
For a TOC to switch all the platform lights off they need to close  the station with locked gates, the TOC has a legal responsibility regarding safety and security of station users (fare paying or not). 
Has this always been a requirement?  When I did an overnight trip in 2002, the FGW (only intercity back then) stations were lit, Wessex were dark and Thames were lit.  This was before councils started switching off street lights overnight though so although I could not see the Wessex stations we passed through, I was still able to work out where we were.

There have been a number of assaults, accidents and general vandalism which has placed this on TOC, its not so much a mandated requirement as on based on risk assessment   

Re: "The Inspiration Train"
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361641/30289/51]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 21:37, 21st May 2025
 
A fantastic idea to help celebrate this massively significant year for the railways, and the catalytic reaction it had on the country.

"The Inspiration Train"
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361640/30289/51]
Posted by Mark A at 21:27, 21st May 2025
 
Travelling exhibition. Presumably, many destinations to be added to the schedule. (This is another reason why a terminus needs multiple platforms, it'll be disappointing if the Inspiration Train doesn't rock up at Newquay.)

Mark


https://railway200.co.uk/inspiration/

Re: RAF Chilmark
In "Railway History and related topics" [361637/23482/55]
Posted by Marlburian at 18:47, 21st May 2025
 
Thanks, Grahame, I was aware of two of the articles, but the Kent Rail article on Dinton provided an excellent history of the military lines.

Re: Station lighting hours
In "Across the West" [361636/30281/26]
Posted by Mark A at 18:27, 21st May 2025
 
Thanks! I was helped by the subject being so cooperative...

Mark

Re: Station lighting hours
In "Across the West" [361635/30281/26]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 18:22, 21st May 2025
 
That's a very well composed picture Mark.

Darwin Award Hopeful?
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [361634/30287/49]
Posted by johnneyw at 17:41, 21st May 2025
 
As reported in this article, the incident has prompted Network Rail to apply for closure of this crossing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/england-trespasser-railway-track-b2753590.html

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361633/30273/30]
Posted by bobm at 16:49, 21st May 2025
 
Didn't you ask Finn?

Is there doggie sign language for the hard of canine hearing?

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361632/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 14:47, 21st May 2025
 
Wednesday May 21

1W13 06:52 Paddington to Great Malvern was started from Reading due to engineering work not being finished on time.

11:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:23 has been delayed at Oxford and is now 33 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:21/05/2025 14:31

12:52 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:21/05/2025 13:44

15:18 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:21/05/2025 13:45

Re: RAF Chilmark
In "Railway History and related topics" [361631/23482/55]
Posted by bradshaw at 13:48, 21st May 2025
 
I am not sure if you have seen these articles

https://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/Items/Chilmark/Chilmark%20-%20Little%20Trains%20of%20RAF%20Chilmark.pdf

https://www.kentrail.org.uk/dinton.htm

https://www.theurbanexplorer.co.uk/teffont-quarry-raf-chilmark-north-chilmark-wiltshire/

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361630/30273/30]
Posted by froome at 12:30, 21st May 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, bradshaw, eightonedee, PhilWakely, JayMac
 
Didn't you ask Finn?

Doggie footpaths don't tend to follow the same routes that our ones do - they often involve charging across whatever is in the way and then circling around and weaving all over the place - and no doubt have their own coding system. 

Re: RAF Chilmark
In "Railway History and related topics" [361629/23482/55]
Posted by Marlburian at 09:53, 21st May 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
On Sunday I visited the Chilmark and Fovant area, my main reason being to "check out" the RAF base at the former. There's lots of buildings to be seen from the country road that runs through the site, as well as a bridleway that crosses it. The embedded rails in the road are still there, but are partially covered where they run alongside it to form a pavement. There are some very secure gates with warning signs at the various entrances, though one was invitingly ajar - I didn't succumb to temptation, as I imagine the owners are fed up with "urban explorers" and the like trespassing.

Lorries conveying ammunition from the site must have caused problems in the narrow lanes, as might have buses and coaches taking personnel to Salisbury and Dinton.

Some accounts refer to a spur serving the depot off the Salisbury-Exeter line at Ham Cross, others to it starting at Dinton, though the latter presumably relates to the rationalisation of passenger services on the line and the singling of most of it, with the up line being retained for military use. The depot railway appears not to feature on contemporary maps, presumably for security reasons (as was the case with AWE Aldermaston) and the only plan of the depot I can find is here.

I have a vague idea that I cycled in the locality in the 1980s, pausing in the "throat" of one entrance to have a drink, setting off again just as a civilian emerged, presumably to send me packing. As with disused railway stations, I wish I had paid more attention to how the depot looked when it was active.

(Thanks to Grahame for his useful links above.)

Later I followed part of the track of the Fovant Military Railway. At Pembroke Farm, close to the A30, there's an impressive compound formed from old sleepers, perhaps re-purposed from the railway.

Then I walked north of the A30 along the southern edge of Fovant Wood, through the delightful village of Compton Chamberlayne to Naishes Farm and along two of the most impressive "sunken lanes" I've ever come across.

Re: Station lighting hours
In "Across the West" [361628/30281/26]
Posted by Mark A at 08:45, 21st May 2025
 
This thread reminded me of this photo of Avoncliff from 2022. Well lit, well directed light, could still perhaps have specified 3000 or 2500K, it'd be interesting to know if warmer light makes LED lighting less of a magnet for the insects we increasingly do not have. Perhaps a ramped dimming on a motion sensor for the many hours of darkness when no one is present on the platforms - or perhaps just rather less intensity overall as that light level is... generous.

Mark

https://i.postimg.cc/K8hH7Js7/avoncliff-august-22-1600.jpg

Re: Lessons from the line to Tessin
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361627/30285/52]
Posted by grahame at 07:58, 21st May 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad
 
Grahame- there's so much material in the linked blog of yours I think it worth posting in full as it would (I am sure) stimulate some worthwhile new threads on this forum. In particular your comments about the different approach to fencing and barriers for safety and security.

Huge number of lessons - and that's only the start of the day!   

As well as the fencing and crossings, I noted the schedules which allowed time at end-of-line stations.   It meant that trains could routinely leave on time and felt more friendly as people waited in the warmth of the train rather than standing on a crowded platform waiting to anxiously join.  At the passing station in the middle of the line, trains were unlikely to be late and furthermore the buses connected with the trains in both directions.  It would - just - have been possible to set a timetable with just one train, I think.  But get disruption and it will be out for hours, unfriendly to wait in poor weather, poor bus connections, and perhaps a service that has to turn back short to get back on timetable (seen that at Severn Beach)

Tessin is a small town set inland from Rostock. The little local 2 carriage train runs there every hour, ans it was the one line out from Rostock I had not travelled on; Tessin was just a name.

The train was waiting on platform 11 at Rostock when I got there 20 minutes before it was due to leave (lesson - train arrives in good time and people can get happily seated) (lesson - if a train's in place to start its journey early, it can leave pretty well on time). Rostock Hbf is in parts a mess at present. Only 3 tracks in the large station throat are on place while a big bridge is being worked on, and the station canopies are half missing. People are working on the bridge - away from trains but with trains running (thought - we are very protective in the UK - perhaps even too much??).

A whole load of passengers joined just before the train left - other trains had arrived from further afield on other platforms (lesson - time and arrange trains to connect) and we passed through a maze of pointwork, past the signal box which looked like it's still in use (thought - local train control to aid local working if things are not 100% as planned). Train manager / conductor comes through to check tickets. (lesson - if tickets are routinely checked on train we do not need gates stations with all the expense of equipment and staff).

The tracks all filter out and we find ourselves on a single track in open countryside, 10 minutes of so to the first station. A single lowish platform (but the train has a low floor too and as doors open a shelf / blade is projected agains the edge of the platform to give level access (lesson - quick and easy loading of bicycles, wheelchairs, etc). A bus is waiting literally just across the platform (another benefit of "open" stations) and actually leaves even before our train does (lesson - have buses connect with trains and await their arrival) (lesson - a few extra seconds on the train schedule keeps it on time)

And so we carry on. The countryside is a mixture of man-made production - field of wheat and oilseed and of cows. Apart from the cows, the railway line is unfenced (lesson / thought - why do we fence our minor railways). And there are wooded / forest areas, solar farms and wind turbines. Love the or hate them, this is the modern countryside (question - why don't we have wind farms in Wiltshire?)

After a couple more stations, I feel us pull across to the right and we pull up at Sanitz (b Rostock) and passenger get off. A train coming the other way pulls up into the main platform. Passengers cross the track at the end of the platform on the level off our island platform (question - as smaller passing stations where all trains stop, why do we need subways, bridges, lifts).

On some crossings there are barriers ... lots of crossings in this flat land. Some have half barriers that operate as the train approaches, others have simple zig-zag fences to stop people accidentally running onto the tracks. But mostly the line in open. (thought - if you can walk along the pavement beside road traffic, why does the railway need the extra protection?)

After a minute or two at Sanitz, we carry on. There are colour light signals, but no picking up of a token as you'll see at places like Yeovil and Maiden Newton (lesson - tokenless block is modern and practical and works well) and after a couple more stations we pull into Tessin. Perhaps a dozen people get off - the busy train from Rostock has dropped off people as it's gone along so it's not all that busy at the outer extreme - rather it works as a whole. The driver cuts the engine while the train works for its return time (question - why are engines kept running so often at Westbury and other UK stations?)

The bus stop is across the platform. There's car parking, plenty of sheltered and used cycle space, and the old station building has been repurposed as a restaurant. Like Melksham, the station is a few minutes walk from the town and one of my fellow passengers asks me if I know my way / am lost. A mixture of lack of a common language and an my indication I am good with an international sign and he's on this way (lesson - even a small station can be friendly).

Re: Lessons from the line to Tessin
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361626/30285/52]
Posted by eightonedee at 07:46, 21st May 2025
 
Grahame- there's so much material in the linked blog of yours I think it worth posting in full as it would (I am sure) stimulate some worthwhile new threads on this forum. In particular your comments about the different approach to fencing and barriers for safety and security.

A trip on the Molli
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [361625/30286/47]
Posted by grahame at 07:04, 21st May 2025
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This is not a heritage trip I am on - but I cannot resist posting a few pictures from the Molli Bahn yesterday

Bad Doberan main station - showing how two trains pass on a single platform (Penryn style)




Tickets for sale in the Tea Shop ... reminds me of historic ticket sales at Dilton Marsh


The train runs through the centre of the town and stops there to pick up passengers


Halfway along the line at Heiligendamn the train passes the one going the other way



Lessons from the line to Tessin
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361624/30285/52]
Posted by grahame at 06:33, 21st May 2025
Already liked by Timmer, eightonedee, PrestburyRoad, GBM, Kempis
 
I took a train ride out from Rostock to Tessin yesterday - so much to see and learn.

Full(er) writeup at https://grahamellis.uk/blog1601.html


From Rostock ....












... to Tessin

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361623/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 05:02, 21st May 2025
 
Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to engineering works not being finished on time between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 07:00 21/05.

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