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Re: Rain event 24/11/24
17.6.2025 (Tuesday) 12:39 - All running AOK
 
Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
Posted by a-driver at 12:14, 17th June 2025
 
The mercury reached the balmy heights of 26 degrees at the end of April and we had cancellations and speed restrictions due to what was described at the time as "severe weather" (much to the memorable hilarity of tourists at Paddington from countries who get genuinely severe weather!) , so it's probably safe to assume similar/worse once it rises a few more degrees.

The mercury may have reached the balmy heights of 26 degrees but track temperatures reached 42 degrees. 

Blimey. Hot enough for a BBQ! 

Only if it’s a Sunday!

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:35, 17th June 2025
 
The mercury reached the balmy heights of 26 degrees at the end of April and we had cancellations and speed restrictions due to what was described at the time as "severe weather" (much to the memorable hilarity of tourists at Paddington from countries who get genuinely severe weather!) , so it's probably safe to assume similar/worse once it rises a few more degrees.

The mercury may have reached the balmy heights of 26 degrees but track temperatures reached 42 degrees. 

Blimey. Hot enough for a BBQ! 

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
Posted by a-driver at 10:13, 17th June 2025
 
The mercury reached the balmy heights of 26 degrees at the end of April and we had cancellations and speed restrictions due to what was described at the time as "severe weather" (much to the memorable hilarity of tourists at Paddington from countries who get genuinely severe weather!) , so it's probably safe to assume similar/worse once it rises a few more degrees.

The mercury may have reached the balmy heights of 26 degrees but track temperatures reached 42 degrees. 

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:26, 17th June 2025
 
The mercury reached the balmy heights of 26 degrees at the end of April and we had cancellations and speed restrictions due to what was described at the time as "severe weather" (much to the memorable hilarity of tourists at Paddington from countries who get genuinely severe weather!) , so it's probably safe to assume similar/worse once it rises a few more degrees.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:37, 16th June 2025
 
This has implications for the infrastructure of our railways, so I'm posting it here - from the BBC:

First heatwave of 2025 likely as temperatures to surge above 30c

Temperatures are set to soar to more than 30C (86F) this week as an area of high pressure builds across the UK.

It will become increasingly hot later this week and by the weekend some places could easily beat the highest temperature recorded so far this year - 29.4C (85F) in Suffolk on 13 June.

For a heatwave to be declared by the Met Office we need to reach a threshold temperature for at least three consecutive days, and that varies from 25C across the north and west of the UK, to 28C in parts of eastern England. Whilst we have seen temperatures exceeding these figures in recent weeks, the warm spells have not been long enough to qualify as a heatwave - but that could be about to change.



The warm weather will be concentrated across East Anglia and south-east England on Monday and Tuesday before spreading across the Midlands, east Wales and north England by the weekend.

On Monday we are likely to reach 26C, by Wednesday the heat becomes much more widespread with highs of 28C, and by the weekend the hot spots surge somewhere between 30 and 33C. Meanwhile, it will become warmer in Northern Ireland and Scotland later in the week, but it will be more comfortable here with temperatures mostly in the low 20s.



By Sunday things become more uncertain and we may see fresher air move in from the Atlantic with a risk of thundery downpours. However, some forecast models keep the heat for longer, especially in East Anglia and south-east England with temperatures continuing to stay above the 30C mark.

Heatwaves are becoming more common due to climate change, with a greater chance of seeing extreme heat.

They can cause problems for our infrastructure, such as trains running at reduced speeds due to the risk of train tracks expanding and buckling in the heat.

We also see more heat-related health problems which can lead to an increase in excess deaths in those with underlying health conditions.

Heat-health alerts are issued to warn health providers of the risk of a heat causing adverse impacts to the health and wellbeing of the population.


My highlighting. CfN.


Thunderstorms forecast despite driest spring for decades - 12 May 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:06, 11th May 2025
 
From the BBC:



A yellow weather warning has been issued for thunderstorms, which could lead to flooding in parts of England and Wales.

The warning covers areas including Wales, the Midlands, west of England, London and the South East from 12:00 BST to 22:00 on Monday, the Met Office said.

Up to 50mm (1.9in) of rain could fall within a few hours, with a possibility of delays and some cancellations to train and bus services.

England has had its driest start to spring for 69 years, the Environment Agency said earlier this month.

Showers are forecast to drift in from the south in the early hours of Monday, the Met Office said.

Temperatures across the board are due to remain mild in the high teens or early 20s.

The Met Office said there was the "potential for minor localised issues" and flash flooding.

Sunshine and settled conditions will return across the UK for the rest of the week, with temperatures forecast to reach 23C in some parts.

Last week, the Environment Agency warned that water companies that more must be done to safeguard water supplies.

Many places have gone without any rain for weeks, including Preston in Lancashire and parts of Fife which have been dry since mid-April.

According to the UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology's three month Drought Index, large parts of the UK are in the 'extremely dry' category.




My highlighting - CfN. 

Re: Warmest day of year as UK temperature hits 24.9C - April 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:20, 30th April 2025
 
Easy for you to say. 

Re: Warmest day of year as UK temperature hits 24.9C - April 2025
Posted by UstiImmigrunt at 06:26, 30th April 2025
 
It is forecast to be into the mid 20s today in Ústí nad Labem.

Re: Warmest day of year as UK temperature hits 24.9C - April 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:56, 29th April 2025
 

I put the shorts on for the first time this year.


Too much information. 


Re: Warmest day of year as UK temperature hits 24.9C - April 2025
Posted by JayMac at 23:01, 29th April 2025
 
I put the shorts on for the first time this year.

And Finn had his cooling mat for the car.

Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:24, 29th April 2025
 
From the BBC:

The UK saw its warmest day of the year on Tuesday with a peak of 24.9C (76.8F) recorded - and forecasters predicting that later this week could see the hottest start to May on record.

The highest temperatures were seen in Ross-on-Wye in the West Midlands and Trawscoed in the west of Wales - surpassing 2025's previous high of 24.5C recorded at St James's Park in London on Monday.

Forecasters say the current warm spell could see temperatures peak at 29C on the first day of the new month on Thursday, as many voters head to the polls for local elections in England.

High UV and pollen levels also likely. The weather will gradually cool over the bank holiday weekend, although it will stay dry and sunny for most.

Peak temperatures in Scotland on Tuesday varied between 17C in the Northern Isles and 22.4C at Aboyne, while 22.2C was recorded at Derrylin in Northern Ireland.

They will widely be in the low to mid-twenties on Wednesday, with the hottest weather likely in the London area at 27C.

The last time this temperature was recorded in April was in 2018 in Cambridge.

(Article continues)



Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by grahame at 09:31, 19th March 2025
 
The easterly wind was very strong in the Exeter area yesterday so the sea would have been surging directly towards the railway line. As a result of this I suspect NR would have implemented Single Line Working (SLW) between DWW and TGM (West) and would have cancelled these station calls to avoid making the resulting capacity issue even worse.

Ah yes - that makes some sense.  Not that an IET would get drowned at Teignmouth as it might have at Dawlish, but rather these stops were left out because they had become stations on a highly limiting (capacity wise) single line section for the duration of the storm.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:34, 19th March 2025
 
The easterly wind was very strong in the Exeter area yesterday so the sea would have been surging directly towards the railway line. As a result of this I suspect NR would have implemented Single Line Working (SLW) between DWW and TGM (West) and would have cancelled these station calls to avoid making the resulting capacity issue even worse.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by grahame at 09:53, 18th March 2025
 
Perhaps out of context for this thread ... but has me wondering about water on an IET?

07:00 Gloucester to Plymouth due 10:31

07:00 Gloucester to Plymouth due 10:31 will no longer call at Dawlish and Teignmouth.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.

Understand the potential problem at Dawlish, but didn't think that Teignmouth would be a risk?

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by broadgage at 06:39, 10th December 2024
 
Sunday is also in the working week for power company fault finding and repair teams. Some of whom actually ENJOY storms, and the consequent overtime.
I know of one who intends to buy a house "a couple more decent storms should pay the deposit"

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by a-driver at 12:33, 9th December 2024
 
A remarkable recovery - it's fortunate that roofers have Sundays in the working week! 

Maybe not so much in the working week, more ££££ in their pocket!

Anything can be fixed when the offer is right.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:53, 9th December 2024
 
Looks like someone (THANK YOU) has been working very hard fixing / checking overnight and both Chippenham and Westbury are re-opened this morning ... breaking news ...

We are going to agree to disagree about the reasonableness of having three old stations all fail in the exceptional wind.   And rather like boxing day trains, we will generate a lot of heat in discussion but in the end it's just an occasional incident ... in my view what is much more important is the safety of people at these time and secondly the ongoing "lack of crew" and "your line needed for engineering works [elsewhere]" that we're back to at my home station tomorrow!

A remarkable recovery - it's fortunate that roofers have Sundays in the working week! 

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by grahame at 05:59, 9th December 2024
 
Looks like someone (THANK YOU) has been working very hard fixing / checking overnight and both Chippenham and Westbury are re-opened this morning ... breaking news ...

We are going to agree to disagree about the reasonableness of having three old stations all fail in the exceptional wind.   And rather like boxing day trains, we will generate a lot of heat in discussion but in the end it's just an occasional incident ... in my view what is much more important is the safety of people at these time and secondly the ongoing "lack of crew" and "your line needed for engineering works [elsewhere]" that we're back to at my home station tomorrow!

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by GBM at 05:29, 9th December 2024
 
Bus and coach companies everywhere are struggling to find and keep drivers as it is.
There's been a steady drip of drivers leaving First Kernow and moving across to Transport for Cornwall services and operators.
First have just enough vehicles to cover school/college duties and service runs.
However, with an elderly fleet, breakdowns are also increasing, so service runs are cut to keep education services going!
No spare coaches/drivers this end of the world!

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Timmer at 21:20, 8th December 2024
 
Fair question, Timmer.

How about a fleet of coaches being provided, as road replacement transport?

After all, they've had 24 hours to get it organised.  
As you asked so nicely…
VERY limited road transport is operating between Bristol Temple Meads and Salisbury, via stations on route.

What that looks like is anybody’s guess but I highly doubt it’s going to be a usable replacement for commuter train services.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by ChrisB at 21:20, 8th December 2024
 
Fair question, Timmer.

How about a fleet of coaches being provided, as road replacement transport?

After all, they've had 24 hours to get it organised.  

And where do you suppose they find a fleet of coaches on a school day, at school time?

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by AMLAG at 21:05, 8th December 2024
 

On the face of it, it’s rather surprising that an emergency hourly TT for the many hundreds of commuters etc to Bath and Bristol has not been planned to run between Trowbridge and Bristol TM and VV serving all stations, with trains running empty between Trowbridge and Westbury North to cross over.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:29, 8th December 2024
 
Fair question, Timmer.

How about a fleet of coaches being provided, as road replacement transport?

After all, they've had 24 hours to get it organised.  

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by grahame at 20:26, 8th December 2024
 
Update from GWR at 19.35
  Westbury station has been closed as a safety precaution, and trains are unable to call there. The ticket office is closed.

This will not be fixed until Tuesday 10th December at the earliest, therefore no trains will operate to or from Westbury on Monday 9th December 2024.
The question is where does this leave commuters from the likes of Warminster, Frome, Trowbridge, Melksham and Bradford on Avon to Swindon, Bath and Bristol?

It leaves them working from home, or loosing a day's pay, or catching the bus, driving or getting a lift. Sad thing is that if that works well for them, they'll do it more often or perhaps always.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Timmer at 20:21, 8th December 2024
 
Update from GWR at 19.35
  Westbury station has been closed as a safety precaution, and trains are unable to call there. The ticket office is closed.

This will not be fixed until Tuesday 10th December at the earliest, therefore no trains will operate to or from Westbury on Monday 9th December 2024.
The question is where does this leave commuters from the likes of Warminster, Frome, Trowbridge, Melksham and Bradford on Avon to Swindon, Bath and Bristol?

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by bradshaw at 19:58, 8th December 2024
 
Update from GWR at 19.35
  Westbury station has been closed as a safety precaution, and trains are unable to call there. The ticket office is closed.

This will not be fixed until Tuesday 10th December at the earliest, therefore no trains will operate to or from Westbury on Monday 9th December 2024.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Timmer at 19:27, 8th December 2024
 
For anyone who relies on the train to get to work, west of Swindon it’s looking pretty grim tomorrow.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by ChrisB at 19:25, 8th December 2024
 
From Thomas Lydon @ GWR

Storm Darragh continues to have a considerable impact on services across our network. Trains are unable to run on several parts of the network and currently services remain suspended west of Cardiff Central, between Oxford and Hereford, on the Barnstaple and Okehampton lines, and on all branch lines in Cornwall.
 
Network Rail teams are working as we speak to get lines safely reopened as quickly as possible, including removing fallen trees and other debris, however some disruption is expected tomorrow morning (Mon 9 Dec), particularly between Carmarthen and Swansea, and on our Cornish branch lines.
 
Storm damage has also closed Westbury and Chippenham stations and this will remain the case tomorrow (Mon 9 Dec). Trains are operating between Cardiff Central and Bristol Temple Meads, and between Salisbury and Portsmouth Harbour. Limited connecting rail replacement bus services are in operation, including between Bath Spa/Swindon and Chippenham. The Night Riviera Sleeper service has been cancelled this evening, Sun 8 Dec.
 
The very latest travel information including on refunds and ticket acceptance is available at www.gwr.com/check or also from our social media sites at www.x.com/gwrhelp and www.x.com/networkrailwest. 
 
We apologise for the ongoing disruption, and as ever if there’s anything we can do to help please don’t hesitate to get in touch.
 
Best wishes
 
Tom & Tomos

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by grahame at 09:45, 8th December 2024
 
Cancellations to services at Chippenham

Due to severe weather at Chippenham the line is blocked.

Train services running through this station will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice

Following damage from Storm Darragh, Chippenham Station has been declared not safe to operate. Therefore the station is closed, and trains are not calling there.

Customers requiring Chippenham are advised to travel to Swindon, where road transport will be available. If travelling from Bristol Temple Meads or Bath Spa, please board a London Paddington bound service and change at Swindon. For customers travelling from London Paddington or Reading, please alight at Swindon for transport. Please also be advised that due to availability, there may be a waiting time of up to 30 minutes at Swindon for road transport.

For customers arriving at Chippenham, LIMITED road transport is in operation for customers making local journeys towards Bath Spa, Swindon, Melksham, and Westbury.

Further Information
An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
If you require further information please speak to our staff at the station or on the train, use the Customer Help Point, tweet us @GWRHelp or call National Rail Enquiries on 03457 484 950.

If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:08/12/2024 08:31

08:30 Semifast Exeter to Paddington is running to time; just skipped Westbury noted "UWA" (Up Westbury Avoider) and now running early. Expect it to wait for the clock at Pewsey.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by GBM at 09:23, 8th December 2024
 
RTT showing service Bristol to Weymouth via Westbury, starting with a VST lusted departure at 09.29. It was activated at 03.55

lusted
Too old and too cold!

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by froome at 08:59, 8th December 2024
 
RTT showing service Bristol to Weymouth via Westbury, starting with a VST lusted departure at 09.29. It was activated at 03.55

Then there is the 17.53 and 20.11 from Weymouth and the 17.48 and 2049 from Bristol, all WTT services

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:36498/2024-12-08/detailed

Even in this wind, people do really want to get to Weymouth. 

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by bradshaw at 08:44, 8th December 2024
 
RTT showing service Bristol to Weymouth via Westbury, starting with a VST lusted departure at 09.29. It was activated at 03.55

Then there is the 17.53 and 20.11 from Weymouth and the 17.48 and 2049 from Bristol, all WTT services

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:36498/2024-12-08/detailed

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by GBM at 08:37, 8th December 2024
 
5Z99 0825 Penzance to Plymouth.
Empty Coaching Stock
A test train perhaps.

6J84 0800 St Germans to Tavistock Jn (Civil Engineer) earlier ran down to Liskeard, reversed, and travelled to Tavistock Junction ok, so that section of line seems to be good for running.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by GBM at 07:47, 8th December 2024
 
There was a tree blocking both lines at Bodmin Parkway yesterday evening.
On journeycheck now
Customer Advice
The Cornish Main Line is now blocked at Bodmin Parkway due to a large tree on both lines.

Passengers are advised NOT TO TRAVEL.
Last Updated:08/12/2024 06:11

Opentraintimes confirmed this yesterday with TREE BLOK on both lines.

However, Opentraintime is NOT now showing a block at Bodmin, so guessing the tree was been removed overnight, but journeycheck not reflecting this.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by JayMac at 19:43, 7th December 2024
 
If anyone is really needing to travel between Devon and Cornwall the Tamar bridge is open - a pal has just been across it en route to watch Plymouth Albion this afternoon, their fixture having somehow survived the weather.

I think your pal might have been mistaken - the Plymouth v Oxford game was called off yesterday lunchtime. I spent some time in Chieveley services with them as their coach was in the process of returning to Oxford.


 TG was talking about Plymouth Albion RFC. Not Plymouth Argyle FC.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by ChrisB at 19:08, 7th December 2024
 
If anyone is really needing to travel between Devon and Cornwall the Tamar bridge is open - a pal has just been across it en route to watch Plymouth Albion this afternoon, their fixture having somehow survived the weather.

I think your pal might have been mistaken - the Plymouth v Oxford game was called off yesterday lunchtime. I spent some time in Chieveley services with them as their coach was in the process of returning to Oxford.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by eXPassenger at 17:11, 7th December 2024
 
Very surprised to hear an unattended phone talking in another room.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Electric train at 14:25, 7th December 2024
 
Just read on another Forum that Chippenham footbridge has collapsed, blocking all lines.

Not the bridge its part of the canopy over the platform at Chippenham train station has sustained damage in the storm.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Mark A at 13:37, 7th December 2024
 
A post from Bluesky: four photos from Westbury showing the damage to the station roof.

Mark

https://bsky.app/profile/disgruntledguard.bsky.social/post/3lcponjfgbc26

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by GBM at 11:40, 7th December 2024
 
1Z09 1025 Reading to Bristol Temple Meads being held/caustioned outside Chippenham at signal 1281 (running 33 minutes down), with service 1C10 1030 London Paddington to Exeter St Davids held behind it (8 down).

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:05, 7th December 2024
 
Just read on another Forum that Chippenham footbridge has collapsed, blocking all lines.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by UstiImmigrunt at 10:58, 7th December 2024
 
And to add to my previous car comment.

Both bridges shut and trees down on the A48. So how could the Welsh staff book on this morning?

And also the threats, don't book on equals a loss of pay for the day.

And higher management wonder why morale is low and staff aren't willing to help the company?

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:22, 7th December 2024
 
If anyone is really needing to travel between Devon and Cornwall the Tamar bridge is open - a pal has just been across it en route to watch Plymouth Albion this afternoon, their fixture having somehow survived the weather.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by grahame at 10:16, 7th December 2024
 
GWR
Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Penzance
Cancellations to services between Truro and Falmouth Docks
Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Gunnislake
Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Barnstaple
Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives
Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Okehampton
Cancellations to services between Par and Newquay
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Taunton
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Reading
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Weymouth via Yeovil Pen Mill
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Portsmouth Harbour via Salisbury
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Bristol Temple Meads
Cancellations to services between Cardiff Central and Carmarthen
Cancellations to services between Hereford and Worcester Foregate Street
Cancellations to services between Twyford and Henley-On-Thames

SWR
Cancellations to services on all routes
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Salisbury
Cancellations to services between Romsey and Salisbury
Alterations to services between Yeovil Junction and Salisbury
Delays to services between Eastleigh and Fareham
Delays to services between Mortlake and Barnes
Cancellations to services between Exeter Central and Honiton
Cancellations to services between Southampton Central and Brockenhurst
Alterations to services between Surbiton and Effingham Junction
Cancellations to services between Havant and Petersfield

TfW
13 railway lines have been fully suspended, and two other lines are being severely disrupted.

The lines currently suspended are

Llandudno – Blaenau Ffestiniog
Carmarthen – Pembroke Dock / Milford Haven / Fishguard Harbour
Chester – Liverpool Lime Street
Cardiff Central – Panrth / Bridgend via Barry
Cardiff Central – Bridgend / Maesteg / Swansea
Shrewsbury – Llanwrtyd
Machynlleth – Aberystwyth / Pwllheli
Pontypridd – Aberdare / Merthyr Tyfil / Treherbert
Rayr – Coryton
Cardiff Central – Rhymney
Chester – Holyhead
Shrewsbury – Chester / Birmingham International
Cardiff Bay – Cardiff Queen Street
The line between Cardiff Central / Crewe / Manchester Piccadilly and Shrewsbury is running but is expected to be severely delayed all day.

Cross Country
Cancellations to services between Cardiff Central and Nottingham
Cancellations to services between Manchester Piccadilly and Bournemouth
Cancellations to services between Birmingham New Street and Penzance


Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by JayMac at 09:50, 7th December 2024
 
A wild wild morning here in Taunton. We have a tree down near Mum's flat. It's blocked the cul-de-sac we're on so no one is getting out by car today.

A day for staying indoors I think. I certainly won't be out filming with the drone!

Stay safe folks.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Timmer at 09:29, 7th December 2024
 
Roof has just come off at Westbury station.

From Journeycheck:


The station roof at Westbury has incurred significant damage from Storm Darragh, and is not safe to keep Westbury station open; therefore WESTBURY STATION IS CLOSED!

No trains will call in and out of Westbury until further notice. We are looking at various alternatives, but we do not expect to be able to source enough road transport to meet the demand, therefore customers are encouraged to delay their plans for today.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by grahame at 09:14, 7th December 2024
 
Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Penzance
Cancellations to services between Cardiff Central and Carmarthen
Cancellations to services between Truro and Falmouth Docks
Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Gunnislake
Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Barnstaple
Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives
Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Okehampton
Cancellations to services between Hereford and Worcester Foregate Street
Cancellations to services between Par and Newquay
Cancellations to services between Twyford and Henley-On-Thames
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Taunton
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Reading
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Weymouth via Yeovil Pen Mill
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Portsmouth Harbour via Salisbury
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Bristol Temple Meads
Cancellations to services between Salisbury and Warminster

386 services shown on our map as cancelled, 90 running short and 8 delayed.  It's on days like this that our system gets a real test of its robustness in conveying information.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:13, 7th December 2024
 
Hopefully no-one injured........


Due to a tree blocking the railway between Twyford and Henley-On-Thames all lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice
Due to Storm Darragh GWR a train has hit a tree at Shiplake and is unable to move.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by grahame at 07:49, 7th December 2024
 
As of 07:00, JourneyCheck had 10 'Line updates' and no less than 347 'Train cancellations'.

The map is very red.

Interesting comment I picked up elsewhere ...
As usual the weather is to blame, rather then the failure of NR to cut the trees down.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 07:04, 7th December 2024
 
As of 07:00, JourneyCheck had 10 'Line updates' and no less than 347 'Train cancellations'.

The map is very red.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by JayMac at 23:26, 6th December 2024
 
First experience of a government alert via mobile phone this evening.

Scared the bejeebus out of me while I was driving home from shopping.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by UstiImmigrunt at 20:34, 6th December 2024
 
Amber and red warnings. The train service should be suspended altogether.

It’s not worth the risk of damage to trains & infrastructure and more importantly having stranded passengers.

It won't be. Lessons were learnt after Beast of the East. And forgotten in time for Storm Eunice.

The number of stranded staff for both of those weather incidents was considerable.

And how do the staff get in? How many car insurance companies will pay up if there's a car tree interface problem? When a red weather warning recommends do not travel, you don't travel.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:15, 6th December 2024
 
Latest from GWR:

https://www.gwr.com/sunday-disruption

Travel advice following the recently issued storm weather warning and special events taking place across the GWR network:

Following red and amber weather warnings in relation to Storm Darragh on parts of our network, we are advising customers to change their plans if possible this weekend.

Although we expect to still be able to run train services, strong winds mean speed restrictions will be in place across the network, increasing journey times. Fallen trees and other debris may also impact services.

Customers with tickets for travel on GWR services on Saturday 7 and Sunday 8 December can be used on Monday 9 December.

If you no longer wish to travel this weekend you can claim a full refund at GWR.com/help-and-support/refunds

Please note Bath Christmas Market has been cancelled on Saturday.

For the latest journey information visit GWR.com/check.

On Sunday only, crew availability means a significantly reduced, amended timetable will be in place on long-distance services. Online journey planners are currently not correct and will be updated.

Please check your journey on Sunday morning for the latest information.

So no services or routes cancelled, just an advisory to change travel plans.

......which is pretty much the advice GWR give every weekend these days.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:53, 6th December 2024
 
From the BBC:

Millions sent government alert as Storm Darragh approaches

Around three million people in parts of Wales and south-west England have been sent an emergency alert from the government as Storm Darragh approaches the UK.

It is the largest use of the warning system yet and has been sent to the mobile phones of people in areas covered by the Met Office red weather warning for the storm.

The alert made a loud siren-like sound when it was delivered to devices, even if they were set on silent. The alert lasted for around 10 seconds.

The Met Office issued a rare red warning - the most serious type - earlier on Friday for wind in anticipation of the approaching storm.

The Met Office only issues red warnings when meteorologists believe that dangerous, potentially life-threatening weather is expected imminently.

It is in place from 03:00 to 11:00 GMT on Saturday, covering western and southern coastal regions of Wales, as well as the Bristol Channel including parts of Bristol and Cardiff.

The areas under the red warning are forecast wind gusts of 90mph (144kmph) or more, which could lead to flying debris and falling trees, posing a danger to life, the Met Office said.

The government alert was sent to every compatible mobile phone in impacted areas, containing information about the red warning and guidance on how to stay safe into Saturday.

Outside of test scenarios, the alert system has been used twice before, though both times on a smaller scale.

The last Met Office red warning was issued in January for winds in north-east Scotland.

Amber warnings covering Northern Ireland, Wales and the west coast of England are in place on Saturday morning.

The winds are also expected to cause large waves, power cuts affecting mobile phone services, as well as damage to buildings and homes. Transport networks are also anticipated to be affected.

Heavy rain and strengthening winds will start to be felt across western parts of the UK on Friday evening as less serious yellow warnings come into force.

This weather pattern will turn into Storm Darragh moving into Saturday.

The Met Office said the strongest winds would subside by late Saturday morning, but that it would remain very windy until the evening, with amber warnings remaining in place until then.

A yellow rain warning, indicating a risk of flooding, is also in place in parts of the western UK.

In the north of Scotland, a yellow warning for snow is in place, with areas above 400m (1,300ft) getting up to 20cm (8in) of snow. Snow will affect higher parts of the A9 and A83, and may lead to disruption and potential closures.

The Irish Meteorological Service has also issued a red warning for wind from 22:00 on Friday across parts of counties Donegal, Leitrim and Sligo.



In Wales, all domestic football and rugby matches scheduled for Saturday have been cancelled, including Cardiff City's Championship fixture against Watford which had been due to kick off at 15:00 GMT.

Other postponed Saturday football matches include Newport County v Carlisle United in League Two and Plymouth v Oxford United in the Championship.

Meanwhile, Welsh Rugby Union has postponed all community rugby fixtures.

As the weather worsens on Friday evening, shops and cafes in Welsh towns are making the decision to close on Saturday the run-up to the festive period.

Across the UK, there have also been widespread cancellations of winter events and Christmas markets scheduled for the weekend.

In London, all of the Royal Parks will close on Saturday which includes the popular Winter Wonderland attraction in Hyde Park.

Some travel providers warned that services were likely to be affected.

Stena Line ferries said some services across the Irish Sea on Saturday would be cancelled, while the Scottish CalMac operator said some routes could face disruption at short notice.

National Rail said some train journeys in the south west would face disruption, and urged users to check their journey before setting off.

Bristol Airport warned passengers that "disruption is expected" and passengers should check with their airline before travelling.

SP Energy Networks, a Scottish energy firm, said it was mobilising engineers to respond to power cuts "as quickly as possible" but added that customers should tell them if they lose power.  "If you experience a power outage ... please don't assume we know about it."

The RAC has advised motorists to postpone their journeys due to the "highly unusual" red weather warning.  Spokeswoman Alice Simpson told the BBC: "Exposed rural and coastal routes will be particularly treacherous.  Drivers in these areas should be wary of any high-sided vehicles as they are at risk of being buffeted off course or, worse still, blown over."

Storm Darragh is the fourth named storm of the year, after Ashley, Bert and Conall.

Some parts of the UK are still recovering from Storm Bert, which caused extreme flooding and led to the deaths of five people in November.

Scientists say as the Earth's climate warms, extreme weather events will become more frequent. For every 1C rise in average temperature, the atmosphere can hold up to around 7% more moisture.

Globally, heavy rainfall events have become more frequent and intense over most land regions, according to the UN's climate body, which says the pattern will intensify with further warming.


All three of us in this household received that message on our mobile phones - it startled the heck out of us!

CfN. 

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Timmer at 18:20, 6th December 2024
 
Latest from GWR:

https://www.gwr.com/sunday-disruption

Travel advice following the recently issued storm weather warning and special events taking place across the GWR network:

Following red and amber weather warnings in relation to Storm Darragh on parts of our network, we are advising customers to change their plans if possible this weekend.

Although we expect to still be able to run train services, strong winds mean speed restrictions will be in place across the network, increasing journey times. Fallen trees and other debris may also impact services.

Customers with tickets for travel on GWR services on Saturday 7 and Sunday 8 December can be used on Monday 9 December.

If you no longer wish to travel this weekend you can claim a full refund at GWR.com/help-and-support/refunds

Please note Bath Christmas Market has been cancelled on Saturday.

For the latest journey information visit GWR.com/check.

On Sunday only, crew availability means a significantly reduced, amended timetable will be in place on long-distance services. Online journey planners are currently not correct and will be updated.

Please check your journey on Sunday morning for the latest information.

So no services or routes cancelled, just an advisory to change travel plans.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by JayMac at 16:58, 6th December 2024
 
Many other street markets and other events across the west have been cancelled for this weekend.

Santas on a Bike, ride from Bristol to Charlton Farm Children's Hospice

Gloucester Quays Christmas Market, Gloucestershire

Street Festive Market, Somerset

Wells Market, Somerset

Christmas at Westonbirt Trail, Gloucestershire

Stonehouse Goodwill Festival, Gloucestershire

Swindon Enchanted Gardens Light Trail

Clevedon Light up the Lake, Somerset

Frome Market, Somerset

Winchcombe Market, Gloucestershire

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Mark A at 16:36, 6th December 2024
 
Bath Christmas Market's been pulled for Saturday 7th December.

Mark

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by a-driver at 16:15, 6th December 2024
 
I’m fully expecting that will happen. After being caught up in the mess a couple of weeks back, better to say in advance of tomorrow NO train services based on the warnings issued then everyone knows not to head to station in the first place.

Absolutely. An assessment should be made at first light whether trains will run, with the first services used as route proving.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Timmer at 16:10, 6th December 2024
 
Amber and red warnings. The train service should be suspended altogether.

It’s not worth the risk of damage to trains & infrastructure and more importantly having stranded passengers.
I’m fully expecting that will happen. After being caught up in the mess a couple of weeks back, better to say in advance of tomorrow NO train services based on the warnings issued then everyone knows not to head to station in the first place.

GWR tweeted this about 50 minutes ago so decisions are being made which is good:

Network Rail is currently assessing the impact on train services and we expect to be able to update our advice for travel tomorrow in the next hour.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by a-driver at 16:02, 6th December 2024
 
Amber and red warnings. The train service should be suspended altogether.

It’s not worth the risk of damage to trains & infrastructure and more importantly having stranded passengers.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by ChrisB at 11:03, 6th December 2024
 
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-media/media-centre/weather-and-climate-news/2024/red-warning-for-storm-darragh

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by broadgage at 10:24, 6th December 2024
 
The previously issued amber warning, has been upgraded to a very rare red warning for certain Western areas, the amber warning remains in place elsewhere.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by broadgage at 07:32, 6th December 2024
 
I generally ignore yellow weather warnings, unless travelling by train. A yellow warning means "expect seasonal weather conditions"
This however is an amber warning, which suggests more serious conditions. I expect that i will again be glad to have a UPS system in case of power cuts.

Re: Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:11, 6th December 2024
 
It was already very wet and windy here in Nailsea last night. 

Storm Darragh to batter UK amid weather warnings for rain and 80mph winds
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:06, 5th December 2024
 
From the BBC:


Storm Darragh is set to bring damaging winds to parts of the UK on Saturday.

Northern Ireland, south-west Scotland and western parts of England and Wales could see gusts of up to 80mph (129km/h) from Darragh, which was named by the Met Office on Thursday.

Amber and yellow severe weather warnings have been issued with power cuts, building damage and transport disruption likely.

While heavy rain is also forecast, there is unlikely to be as much rainfall and flooding as seen with Storm Bert.

The fourth named storm of the season, Darragh comes only weeks after Storms Bert and Conall caused disruption at the end of November.

Late on Friday, a developing area of low pressure will start to bring heavy rain and strengthening winds across western parts of the UK.

As this develops further into Saturday, this becomes Storm Darragh with its centre crossing northern England.

An amber severe weather warning has been issued by the Met Office for strong winds in Northern Ireland, south-west Scotland and western areas of England and Wales from 3am to 9pm on Saturday.

Gusts will be around 70-80mph (113-129km/h), especially around coastal areas. Further inland, gusts will be 60-70mph (96-113km/h).

These wind gusts have the potential to damage buildings and will bring travel disruption, especially to ferry services in the Irish Sea.

There is a larger yellow Met Office warning across all parts of England and Wales for wind valid from 3pm on Friday through to 6am on Sunday when Darragh will have cleared into the North Sea.

Gusts will widely be around 40-50mph (64-80km/h) across England and Wales which could lead to some transport disruption on Saturday.

Those affected by severe flooding after Storm Bert may be concerned by another storm and heavy rain.

While the rainfall totals associated with Storm Darragh will not be as high, around 2-3in (50-60mm) of rain is expected in parts of Wales and central and southern Scotland by Saturday lunchtime.

A yellow Met Office warning for rain is valid from 3pm on Friday to 12pm on Saturday across these areas as there may be some localised flooding impacts.

Otherwise, more widely across the UK, rainfall totals will be up to an inch (25mm).

There will also be some heavy snow for a time over the higher ground of Scotland as Storm Darragh moves through.


Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:31, 30th November 2024
 
 

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by AMLAG at 21:48, 28th November 2024
 

According to Real Time Trains the 1725 Oke left on time, struggled and arrd Crediton 66 late and St D 69 late.

The  2115 St D actually ran and left on time and is currently braving the 13 mile ‘high Risk Tree Tunnel’ from Coleford to Okehampton, the highest rly stn in Southern England at about 720 feet above sea level.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by grahame at 21:24, 28th November 2024
 
The train is unable to move in a forward direction, according to National Rail


Can't it go backwards and a few hundred yards toward Meldon?

OR ... is it unable to move in a backward direction too, but they haven't told us that because it didn't have to/

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by ChrisB at 20:33, 28th November 2024
 
The train is unable to move in a forward direction, according to National Rail

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:27, 28th November 2024
 
Again from Realtime Trains, the Okehampton line is now back, the first arrival from Exeter being the 17:15, with the remaining three trains also scheduled to run.

Mark

Whoops! 

Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Okehampton via Crediton
Due to a broken down train between Crediton and Okehampton the line is blocked. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Train services between Exeter St Davids and Okehampton via Crediton have been cancelled.

Customer Advice
A train has broken down on our Okehampton line. As well as cancellations related to the earlier fallen trees, this has effectively suspended the line for the rest of the day.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by Timmer at 19:05, 28th November 2024
 
If you wondered if the service was sh1t?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wrz7y5wvko
This article wouldn’t have been out of place in the Annoying / amusing use of completely irrelevant stock photos to illustrate press articles thread with Bristol Temple Meads doubling up as Newbury! 

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by Mark A at 17:23, 28th November 2024
 
Again from Realtime Trains, the Okehampton line is now back, the first arrival from Exeter being the 17:15, with the remaining three trains also scheduled to run.

Mark

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by grahame at 09:10, 28th November 2024
 
Checked the GWR web site and that does have the info - they're awaiting the all clear on a bridge that required inspection by divers, reopening 28th so it looks as though that hasn't happened. Perhaps this'll be the longest lasting closure consequential to storm Bert.

Chipping Sodbury still out too ... and the Brecon Mountain Railway

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by Mark A at 08:40, 28th November 2024
 
Wondering why the child who scribbles on Graham's map was so annoyed at Dartmoor, checked Realtime trains and thought for a moment, 'That's ok, lots of...' and then noticed that the trains were missing:


https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:OKE/2024-11-28/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt


Then checked National Rail, but against GWR, only a note "Residual delays'.

Checked the GWR web site and that does have the info - they're awaiting the all clear on a bridge that required inspection by divers, reopening 28th so it looks as though that hasn't happened. Perhaps this'll be the longest lasting closure consequential to storm Bert.

Also, the service seems to have been 'Taxituted'.

Mark

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:19, 28th November 2024
 
If you wondered if the service was sh1t?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wrz7y5wvko

Blimey. And we worry about leaves on the line.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by CyclingSid at 08:09, 28th November 2024
 
If you wondered if the service was sh1t?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wrz7y5wvko

Re: Storm Conall to bring more rain to parts of England and Wales - 26 Nov 2024
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:06, 27th November 2024
 
An update, from the BBC:

Storm Conall brings more rain as it passes over UK

Storm Conall has brought another day of rain to southern England, causing disruptions including cancellations of train services.

There are currently 75 flood warnings in England with flood-hit areas still recovering from the days of downpours during Storm Bert.

The new storm broght fewer issues as it passed over southern England on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, because it was forecast to strengthen as it moved towards the Netherlands.

The number of flood warnings is expected to continue dropping as the flood-hit areas will see drier weather over the next few days.

As Storm Conall passed over England, nearly 50mm of rain fell on Dartmoor and 20-30mm in some other parts of southern England.

But many of the areas that were flooded during Storm Bert saw less rain with totals at around 3mm-8mm, so further problems were averted.  The rain was linked to a developing area of low pressure crossing west to east across southern England.  The upcoming days will see higher pressure, which will bring dry weather across flooded areas, allowing time for the flood water to disappear.

In parts of south-east England, trains were cancelled along three routes due to flooded tracks, while five other routes were facing disruption on Wednesday morning.

Gatwick Express trains will continue to see delays and cancellations into the evening, with the service advising commuters who use the service to start return journeys as soon as possible due to disruptions.

Thameslink passengers travelling to Welwyn Garden City have been advised to use alternate routes due to some suspended services, while others are still reduced.

...



Heavy rainfall and strong winds brought by Storm Bert over the weekend led to at least five deaths, while homes, roads and rail networks faced major disruption.

(news item continues)


Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by BBM at 11:02, 27th November 2024
 
This is almost rubbing salt into an open wound, but if you have a spare 3 hours in the day you might like to watch the video and marvel at how the Norwegian railways cope with bad weather.

It gets particularly spicy about 1hr 40min. Just try to picture an IEP running in the same conditions.

https://youtu.be/JvDjZRR9LAg?si=e7nt4ohYCEMI1Ta-

And from Japan (jump to 0:40 for the first train in the snowy video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uXKUA3ODKM

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by brooklea at 10:00, 27th November 2024
 
Could running via Bristol Parkway be driven, at least partly, by the requirement for crew changes there I wonder?

Filton Abbey Wood also not the best place to be turfed off your train if your car happens to be parked in the large car park at Bristol Parkway...

Whilst I can see the frustration of the additional delay for passengers travelling from South Wales to London, I can also see good reason to run via Bristol Parkway in this situation.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by jamestheredengine at 08:40, 27th November 2024
 
From GWR a couple of hours ago (dusk on 26th November)

The line between Bristol Parkway and Swindon also remains closed due to flooding. As a result our South Wales-London service is reduced to an hourly frequency, and continues to run on a diversionary route adding around 45 minutes to journey times. Similarly we expect this to remain in place until Thursday 28 Nov at the earliest.


The bit that's not brilliant here is that they're still insisting on running into Bristol Parkway and reversing, rather than serving the South Gloucestershire area by having it stop at Filton Abbey Wood instead. This has the effect of the up London getting stuck behind the Cardiff to Portsmouth service. So a diversion that in itself should add less than 20 minutes just turned into delays upon delays until the trains were running about 90 minutes late yesterday afternoon.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by lbraine at 08:23, 27th November 2024
 
This is almost rubbing salt into an open wound, but if you have a spare 3 hours in the day you might like to watch the video and marvel at how the Norwegian railways cope with bad weather.

It gets particularly spicy about 1hr 40min. Just try to picture an IEP running in the same conditions.

https://youtu.be/JvDjZRR9LAg?si=e7nt4ohYCEMI1Ta-

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by TaplowGreen at 04:40, 27th November 2024
 
From GWR a couple of hours ago (dusk on 26th November)

We promised to keep you updated as the impact of Storm Bert continues to be felt.
 
[snip]
 
As ever if there’s anything we can do to help, please don’t hesitate to get in touch.


We understand that in times of extreme weather and high river levels some trains have to be cancelled,  but it would be a real help to us if you could run almost all of the trains that are in your timetable please once this unusual weather event has passed. Thank you

......and if you genuinely want to help, ensure that your communications channels are adequately resourced, configured, informed and empowered in order to be able to help people who "don't hesitate to get in touch" as you are encouraging.

Storm Conall to bring more rain to parts of England and Wales - 26 Nov 2024
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:05, 26th November 2024
 
From the BBC:

A newly-named storm, Conall, is forecast to bring heavy rain to southern England and threaten further issues in flood-hit areas still cleaning up from Storm Bert.

The Met Office has issued yellow weather warnings for rainfall in several southern areas of the UK from 22:00 GMT on Tuesday until midday on Wednesday.

Many parts of England and Wales will also see wet conditions overnight, though the worst of the storm will not hit the UK.

The storm was named by the Dutch Weather Service, which along with the Met Office and Met Eireann in Ireland, name storms for ease of communication.

BBC Weather's Tomasz Schafernaker said Conall would still be developing as it tracked across southern parts of the UK, meaning "the worst of the storm is expected to miss us".  He said the rain would be "initially quite heavy", before moving east throughout the night.

The heaviest rainfall is expected near the south coast of England and in the far southeast, with 15-20mm and possibly 30-40mm of rain forecast.  These areas did not receive the same heavy rainfall from Storm Bert as some other parts of England and Wales.

Flood-hit areas, which could see some rainfall overnight, are very sensitive to any more rain.  And while there will not be much, typically 5-15mm, it could cause more issues.



On Wednesday, the rain band is expected to curl back, with Lincolnshire, the Peak District and the Midlands likely to experience wet conditions, Schafernaker said.

Coastal areas of Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex and Kent could also feel "near gale force" winds.  In the north, frost is expected in Scotland and the Lake District.

Heavy rainfall and strong winds brought by Storm Bert over the weekend led to at least five deaths, while homes, roads and rail networks faced major disruption.  Many communities are still cleaning up after homes and businesses were inundated by floodwater.

Conall is the third "named" storm of the season, after Ashley and Bert.

The storms list - first launched in 2015 - for each year generally runs from early September until late August the following year, coinciding with the beginning of autumn.


Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by grahame at 21:25, 26th November 2024
 
From GWR a couple of hours ago (dusk on 26th November)

We promised to keep you updated as the impact of Storm Bert continues to be felt.
 
[snip]
 
As ever if there’s anything we can do to help, please don’t hesitate to get in touch.


We understand that in times of extreme weather and high river levels some trains have to be cancelled,  but it would be a real help to us if you could run almost all of the trains that are in your timetable please once this unusual weather event has passed. Thank you

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by grahame at 20:56, 26th November 2024
 
From GWR a couple of hours ago (dusk on 26th November)

We promised to keep you updated as the impact of Storm Bert continues to be felt.
 
While most lines have now reopened, both the Barnstaple and Okehampton branch lines remain closed and are likely to remain so until at least Thursday 28 Nov. High water levels in the River Yeo to the north of Crediton means Network Rail divers aren’t yet able to ascertain the damage to a rail bridge over the river, so the lines remain closed.
 
We are operating a rail shuttle service from Exeter St Davids to Crediton, and a limited rail replacement service between Exeter and Barnstaple/Okehampton. These taxis/buses will run directly between Exeter and Barnstaple/Okehampton respectively and will not call at any intermediate stations, including Crediton. We also have ticket acceptance on certain local bus routes; more information can be found at www.gwr.com/check.
 
The line between Bristol Parkway and Swindon also remains closed due to flooding. As a result our South Wales-London service is reduced to an hourly frequency, and continues to run on a diversionary route adding around 45 minutes to journey times. Similarly we expect this to remain in place until Thursday 28 Nov at the earliest.
 
Tickets dated for travel today can be used tomorrow (Weds 27 Nov). There is also heavy rain forecast overnight this evening into tomorrow and with water levels already very high there is the chance for further disruption, so we’re advising customers to check before they travel at www.gwr.com/check, or through our social media accounts at www.x.com/gwrhelp and www.x.com/networkrailwest.
 
As ever if there’s anything we can do to help, please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 16:10, 26th November 2024
 
Dawlish lifts: dead again until further notice allegedly.

As are the lifts at Exeter St Davids. Does Exeter deploy the barrow crossing when that happens?

Mark

Re: Rain event 24/11/24 (Storm Bert)
Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:17, 26th November 2024
 
I have edited the subject of this topic to clarify that the rain event is Storm Bert

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by ChrisB at 09:09, 26th November 2024
 
When a platform is being worked on or replaced, it should be raised by the maximum permitted height relative to the train, in order that the track can be later raised without altering the platform.

So much for level boarding though, eh?

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by Electric train at 07:22, 26th November 2024
 
With "once in a century" floods now occurring every few years, and a reasonable expectation that this will get worse and not better, the railway needs to get better prepared. Or in more detail-

When a new bridge is required over a rail line, at LEAST one meter EXTRA clearance should be provided under the bridge in order that the track can be raised in future without altering the bridge.

When a platform is being worked on or replaced, it should be raised by the maximum permitted height relative to the train, in order that the track can be later raised without altering the platform.

New or refurbished station buildings should be designed to be flood resistant, hard floor and wall coverings that can be pressure washed rather than replaced after a flood. High level electrics. High level shelfs upon which can be placed IT equipment and other valuables when flooding threatens.

Substations for traction or domestic purposes to be located on plinths a meter above the worst previous flood.



All great ideas and they are adopted where possible.

Although station building built so the can be pressure washed would be very clinical in there look.

Elevating electrical equipment is done based on flood risk where possible, although its not just the railways own infrastructure that gets wiped out in floods.

Nature can be defended to a point of cost .................... simple question

How much is the travelling public willing to pay in terms of rail fares to get to 100% flood defence

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by chuffed at 06:52, 26th November 2024
 
And stop building on flood plains. The clues in the name....

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by broadgage at 01:46, 26th November 2024
 
With "once in a century" floods now occurring every few years, and a reasonable expectation that this will get worse and not better, the railway needs to get better prepared. Or in more detail-

When a new bridge is required over a rail line, at LEAST one meter EXTRA clearance should be provided under the bridge in order that the track can be raised in future without altering the bridge.

When a platform is being worked on or replaced, it should be raised by the maximum permitted height relative to the train, in order that the track can be later raised without altering the platform.

New or refurbished station buildings should be designed to be flood resistant, hard floor and wall coverings that can be pressure washed rather than replaced after a flood. High level electrics. High level shelfs upon which can be placed IT equipment and other valuables when flooding threatens.

Substations for traction or domestic purposes to be located on plinths a meter above the worst previous flood.


Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by Trowres at 00:04, 26th November 2024
 
Flooding is still blocking the line between Bedwyn and Taunton, meaning there are no long-distance services between Devon & Cornwall and London

Freight trains have been running between the Mendips, Westbury, Bedwyn and beyond since about 11:00 on 25th. OK, so Castle Cary-Taunton remains closed, but it would have been nice to have had some service for the intermediate stations, or even a message that Pewsey would have zero service all day, Monday.

Apart from the quoted line above, most communications have referred to services between London Paddington and Penzance ... not a mention of Paignton.

I note that with flooding at Lydney, TfW managed to put together a service as far as Chepstow. Perhaps over the border priorities are different?

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by grahame at 22:54, 25th November 2024
 
And for tomorrow (26th November)  ...

We promised to keep you updated on the impact of Storm Bert on our services. Network Rail and GWR teams have been working throughout the day to clear and inspect the lines, opening them for service where possible.
 
We are now able to operate a limited service on most of our routes, including from South Wales, Bristol and the Cotswolds to London. Our South Wales services must operate via a diversionary route due to flooding between Bristol Parkway and Swindon, meaning journeys are taking longer.
 
Flooding is still blocking the line between Bedwyn and Taunton, meaning there are no long-distance services between Devon & Cornwall and London. Customers are advised not to travel on this route; we do have ticket acceptance on SWR from Exeter St Davids to London Waterloo for customers who do need to travel.
 
Local services in Devon & Cornwall are now operating with the exception of the Barnstaple and Okehampton lines which remain closed. Our Night Riviera sleeper service will not operate tonight or tomorrow (Tuesday 26 Nov).
 
We will maintain a reduced service on our long-distance routes tomorrow (Tuesday 26 Nov). Additional rain is forecast for tomorrow evening which could result further flooding of the railway at certain key locations. As a result customers are advised to complete journeys tomorrow by 1900.
 
Tickets dated for today (Mon 25) can be tomorrow and on Wednesday 27 Nov, or customers can claim a full fee-free refund. For the latest information and to check journeys, customers should visit www.gwr.com/check.
 
Thank you for your patience and support, and if there’s anything we do to help, please do get in touch.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by TaplowGreen at 18:31, 25th November 2024
 
.......at a time like this? There genuinely isn't a single other person who could take over?

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by Mark A at 16:37, 25th November 2024
 
Hmm, a friend needs Bath Spa to Plymouth and back, tomorrow Tuesday 26th November... looks as if they'll need to drive it though.

Mark

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by Trowres at 15:37, 25th November 2024
 
Confirming that the 12:17 Westbury-Swindon was cancelled, and its return working, due to "an issue with the train crew".

Rather short notice, that.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by grahame at 13:00, 25th November 2024
 
... that trains on the Bristol-Southampton line are running a tolerably useful service. ( I was going to include the Melksham line (gasp) but at this moment the train's in the platform at Westbury, apparently waiting for a conductor).

Yep . that's not uncommon with that train ... as I understand it, the crew comes off the London to the South West semi-fast and if anything goes wrong with / delays the trains on the main line knock on to the TransWilts, even thought (staff excepted) only a small proportion of people come in via from or viaPewsey and head out to or via Melksham.

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by Trowres at 12:30, 25th November 2024
 
I am pondering over the accuracy and tone of the messaging being provided about train services. This from an update 11:44 today:

London Paddington - Swansea

Train services between London Paddington and South Wales are subject to severe disruption due to flooding. The level of disruption combined with shortages of train crew and planned engineering works means that GWR are unable to guarantee that any journey on this route will remain feasible this evening and intending customers are strongly advised to amend their travel plans to travel today or Tuesday 26th November.

Trains are only running between London Paddington and Swindon, they are unable to divert via alternative routes as these are both closed by flooding. Great Western Railway are unable to offer alternative transport between Swindon and Bristol Parkway. You are advised not to attempt to travel along this route.

The first paragraph is confusing and looks like the result of editing yesterday's text. The second paragraph is inaccurate as, at the time of the update, South Wales services were running in both directions via Chippenham.

Bearing mind that conditions on the roads aren't exactly fun, with closures on the A36 (power lines down in addition to roadworks) and congestion on the A350 / A361, it might be an idea to (suitably nuanced) point out that trains on the Bristol-Southampton line are running a tolerably useful service. ( I was going to include the Melksham line (gasp) but at this moment the train's in the platform at Westbury, apparently waiting for a conductor).






Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 11:29, 25th November 2024
 
I reckon that Network Rail (NR) and the DfT now need to draw up and rapidly implement a plan to deal with the catalogue of obvious flooding blackspots. Different solutions will be required depending on the local topography but Cowley Bridge Junction is an excellent example of what can be achieved if the issues are addressed properly.

Tunnels and/or cuttings prone to repeated flooding could be fitted with pumping systems to move the water elsewhere via pipelines. Sites where pooling is an issue could be provided with larger culverts and/or underground storage tanks. Sections of line running on flood plains could be protected by the installation of sheet piling which, if necessary, would allow the track level to be raised (with the obvious considerations regarding bridge clearances).

But.....who's going to pay for it?!

Re: Rain event 24/11/24
Posted by AMLAG at 10:53, 25th November 2024
 


Rather surprisingly with the main line closed between Plymouth and N.Abbot from approx 1130 Sunday until early today ‘due flooding between Ivybridge and Totnes’ ( at again ? S. Brent rail over river Avon Bdge with an unresolved river bed scour problem ? ) that two NR Engineers trains were allowed to run through operated by the Freightliner FOC; the 1500 Goonbarrow ( ex Nqy) to Westbury and the 1007 Westbury to Goonbarrow (for Nqy ).


 
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